Go Back   Pace and Cap - Sartin Methodology & The Match Up > RDSS - Leverage/Pace > Study Group Discussion
Get RDSS
Google Site Search Get RDSS Sartin Library RDSS FAQs Conduct Register Site FAQ Members List Today's Posts

Study Group Discussion Pre-Release Discussion

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
Old 10-07-2024, 09:47 PM   #1
kahunab
Grade 1
 
kahunab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Colorado
Posts: 312
Protocol, Protocol, Protocol

Protocol, Protocol, Protocol


The most important thing in this process is to identify your protocol and stick with it. But to do that you need to be sure the probabilities are in your favor. When we lost BPP and PL, I went on a quest to find out if I could identify factors that were as good or better. I hit on the BL/BL rank as having the Key horse 95-99% of the time depending on track, distance and surface. Since the return of PL and BPP, others have suggested that using the top 5 of those or other ratings are better. That is great, I have no investment in either, I just want to encourage you to establish a protocol based on probabilities and use it every time. In addition, make sure that you have a fair idea of the probabilities each and every time.

My protocol and the data you look at when you look at my work is based on:

A. My data that says 95-99% of the time the top 5 BL/BL horses contain the key horse.
B. The “arrow” horses contain the key horse 80-83% of the time. Thus we are looking at identifying the key horse in 5 out of 6 races. That is pretty powerful data.
C. All of our data is based on using the pace line selected by the "Best Perceptor, Last 3 Comparable (default)".

My protocol is to identify the top 5 BL/BL horses every time. (If you don’t do this you will find that the arrow horses will change when you don’t narrow the field. Try it a few times and watch what happens.)
So,
1. Select the top 5 contenders for the Key horse using whatever you statically believe will produce the highest rate of Key horses. But be solid in your stats. Don’t just do the change in a feeling. (We as pace handicappers have been guilty of that for years. Know your probabilities.)
2. Know that in 5 out of 6 races the Key horse (the horse statistically most likely to Win or Place is one of the “arrow” horses.
3. The decision for the key horse is to determine which of the arrow horses best fits the pace scenario as we previously discussed.

Lets look at a whole card at Saratoga. We will look at races with at least 6 runners and no more than 2 FTS.
Sar1 Maiden with 5 FTS
Sar2 Maiden with no horse having more that 2 lines. 2FTS I just don't trust the output when horses have zero or one line.

Sar 3
Name:  Sar 3.png
Views: 274
Size:  119.4 KB

Sar 4
Name:  SAR 4.png
Views: 277
Size:  128.3 KB

Sar 5 Only 4 Runners

Sar 6
Name:  SAR 6.png
Views: 255
Size:  134.4 KB

Sar 7 9 First Time Starters

Sar 8 7 First Time Starters

Sar 9 5 First Time Starters

Sar 10
Name:  SAR 10.png
Views: 251
Size:  146.7 KB
__________________
Haakon 47


'Something magical happens when you bring together a group of people from different disciplines with a common purpose.' Mark Stefik Palo Alto Research Centre Fellow
kahunab is offline   Reply With Quote
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:40 AM.