How best to match just using raw/original times and the entire past performances?

[mufasa]

#7 pl5: 46.1 1.11.2 3-2-1-1
#5 pl1: 46.3 1.11.4 1-1-2-2
The #7 becomes when comparing and Voodoo-ing: 3-1-1-1. I believe you leave it alone at the first call because the #7 is a P type but between his position improvement and better call times he easily moves into the 1 position by the half and remains to win thereafter.

Thanks,
Robert

[RichieP]

Here are Ragin and Mufasa's added lines to the Power Line for each of the 2 true contenders. They have both selected absolutely the proper pacelines

Running styles(remember now these are based on FAST races):
#5 - Early and Other than early
#7 - Other than early

"We bet the horse closest to the lead positionally.That is our horse". - The Hat

Simple question gentlemen.

The horses go into the gate. They line up good and the gate pops open. Who will be ahead of who. The 5 or the 7?

That is your horse.

This is the beginnings of how Hat picked horses to win that left many luminaries of the game shaking their heads in disbelief after the horse crossed the wire in front.

This is Jim Bradshaw's Matchup at THIS stage in our learning.

The gate pops and the race starts running. Who will be ahead of who the 5 or the 7. That is your horse.

Screenshot:
1) The added lines for the 5 and 7

[RichieP]

Originally Posted by mufasa

#7 pl5: 46.1 1.11.2 3-2-1-1
#5 pl1: 46.3 1.11.4 1-1-2-2
The #7 becomes when comparing and Voodoo-ing: 3-1-1-1. I believe you leave it alone at the first call because the #7 is a P type
Thanks,
Robert

YES you do leave his ass alone because he has NOT demonstrated the ability in fast races to change his style to early Robert.

Good work

[mufasa]

Originally Posted by RichieP

YES you do leave his ass alone because he has NOT demonstrated the ability in fast races to change his style to early Robert.

Good work

Rich, this is an OTE race and I have to say that the #7 is ahead of the #5 by the first call, just after the first fraction. I would give the #5 horse the first fraction because he has run early before (assuming he breaks early/on top) but by the first call the #7 is taking over the race.

If I am not getting this last part please show me by your final example and analysis.

Thanks,

Robert

[sdahl]

Richie could i ask a question. I noticed in this example you used the second call time of 46 and change for your projected pace. Do you also do this for sprints or use the first call time.
Stan

[RichieP]

Originally Posted by sdahl

Richie could i ask a question. I noticed in this example you used the second call time of 46 and change for your projected pace. Do you also do this for sprints or use the first call time.
Stan

Hi Stan
The 46 and change is the first call here because the race is a route. Sprints first call is always 22 etc and YES we always start projecting pace with the first call

Merry Christmas btw

[mufasa]

Originally Posted by RichieP

Simple question gentlemen.

The horses go into the gate. They line up good and the gate pops open. Who will be ahead of who. The 5 or the 7?

That is your horse.

This is the beginnings of how Hat picked horses to win that left many luminaries of the game shaking their heads in disbelief after the horse crossed the wire in front.

This is Jim Bradshaw's Matchup at THIS stage in our learning.

The gate pops and the race starts running. Who will be ahead of who the 5 or the 7. That is your horse.

OK Rich I am hearing you loud and clear now. If the #5 breaks well like he has in the past he will go for the lead and there is no one in today's race that is faster. He will be first at the first fraction and the first call and according to Jim Bradshaw's Matchup everyone else is chasing and the #5 is winning the race at 15/1 or better. So the race becomes a early race because of #5 breaking on top and going all the way, right?

Robert

[RichieP]

Originally Posted by mufasa

Rich, this is an OTE race and I have to say that the #7 is ahead of the #5 by the first call, just after the first fraction. I would give the #5 horse the first fraction because he has run early before (assuming he breaks early/on top) but by the first call the #7 is taking over the race.

If I am not getting this last part please show me by your final example and analysis.

Thanks,

Robert

Ok let me put the race result up "Mu".

Fwiw I have lost HUNDREDS of races with Jim on the phone but learned something hopefully each time. When i was shown what i have just shown and tried to explain here I lost quite a few before patterns kept repeating themselves and horses that looked like the 5 here kept beating me often at really good mutuals.

We are going to be dealing more and more with evaluating multiple lines in the coming months and I think this was a good start for both you and Ragin.

Here is the race result. The 5 horse wired the field as I had the chart earlier but it was deleted accidentally man

[mufasa]

Originally Posted by RichieP

Ok let me put the race result up "Mu".

Fwiw I have lost HUNDREDS of races with Jim on the phone but learned something hopefully each time. When i was shown what i have just shown and tried to explain here I lost quite a few before patterns kept repeating themselves and horses that looked like the 5 here kept beating me often at really good mutuals.

We are going to be dealing more and more with evaluating multiple lines in the coming months and I think this was a good start for both you and Ragin.

Here is the race result

Rich, do you know if the #5 broke on top and went for the lead. If he did that then I could much better understand it winning but if he is coming in as the winner by way of OTE then it is a harder hump to get over.

Thanks,
Robert

[RichieP]

Originally Posted by mufasa

Rich, do you know if the #5 broke on top and went for the lead. If he did that then I could much better understand it winning but if he is coming in as the winner by way of OTE then it is a harder hump to get over.

Thanks,
Robert

YES he wired Robert. I edited my above post before reading this. I had the darn chart itself but it got lost in the shuffle here. 100% he went wire to wire.
ok