Apv Cr - Page 3 - Pace and Cap

fasthorses · 04-21-2007, 05:48 AM

I know the formula to calculate APV and that provides a context for using or electing to not use the number.

I don't know the formula for the Class Rating. Could someone please provide it or steer me to where I can find it?

Thank you.

admin · 04-21-2007, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fasthorses

I know the formula to calculate APV and that provides a context for using or electing to not use the number.

I don't know the formula for the Class Rating. Could someone please provide it or steer me to where I can find it?

Thank you.

Hi fasthorses
welcome to Pace and Cap

Here are a few pages from the basic (Yellow) manual
I think its a great article Starting about page 6 in the pdf
Doc explains how the APV and CR ratings are made
I hope this helps

http://www.bindfold.com/Yellowmanuals_pages41_52.pdf

fasthorses · 04-21-2007, 09:01 AM

Thank you for the very fast reply. Unfortunately, I'm confused.

Prior to posting my request, I did "poke around" this site trying to find the formula. As part of that I did follow an earlier link to the pdf you recommended. In the earlier posts on the subject and in the video you created the formula I'm asking about is referred to as either "Class Factor" or "Class Rating". In the pdf, I find references to: APV, EPS, ITM %, and class adjustment. If I understand the pdf material correctly, by manipulating the APV and EPS figures and then taking those manipulated figures and adding them to the ITM%, a suggested class adjustment is created which, at least at the time the pdf was written, could be used to alter some of the early Sartin program ratings (EP and SP).

The implication of your reply to my question (to me at least) is that what is labelled as "class adjustment" in the pdf is the same thing as the "class factor/class rating" discussed on this site and in you video. Is that correct? If so, do you still use this figure and in what situations is it helpful or hurtful?

Thank you for your time on this matter.

socantra · 04-21-2007, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fasthorses

I know the formula to calculate APV and that provides a context for using or electing to not use the number.

I don't know the formula for the Class Rating. Could someone please provide it or steer me to where I can find it?

Thank you.

"Introducing the New, Revised Class Rating": Follow Up #5, p.7

"Some Thoughts On and Additions to the Revised Class Rating": Follow Up #9, p.52

admin · 04-21-2007, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by socantra

"Introducing the New, Revised Class Rating": Follow Up #5, p.7

"Some Thoughts On and Additions to the Revised Class Rating": Follow Up #9, p.52

Thank you Dick

I have extraced both articles from the early follow ups

Here are the PDFS

http://www.bindfold.com/Issue5s_pages%207_15.pdf

http://www.bindfold.com/Issue9s_pages%2052-54.pdf

froggy · 04-21-2007, 03:32 PM

THE POWER OF APV ON THE GRASS
Do the numbers for Kee0421-5(today) Top number won and paid $3.60.
The top four numbers paid $780 for the super. No handicapping required.

No I didn't have it but I did bet the winner w/p.

Froggy

fasthorses · 04-22-2007, 04:40 AM

Thanks all.

Socantra, those 2 references were right on point and very helpful.

Bill, thanks for your insights and the video.

04-21-2007, 05:48 AM	#21
fasthorses Grade 3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 50	I know the formula to calculate APV and that provides a context for using or electing to not use the number. I don't know the formula for the Class Rating. Could someone please provide it or steer me to where I can find it? Thank you.

04-21-2007, 09:01 AM	#23
fasthorses Grade 3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 50	Thank you for the very fast reply. Unfortunately, I'm confused. Prior to posting my request, I did "poke around" this site trying to find the formula. As part of that I did follow an earlier link to the pdf you recommended. In the earlier posts on the subject and in the video you created the formula I'm asking about is referred to as either "Class Factor" or "Class Rating". In the pdf, I find references to: APV, EPS, ITM %, and class adjustment. If I understand the pdf material correctly, by manipulating the APV and EPS figures and then taking those manipulated figures and adding them to the ITM%, a suggested class adjustment is created which, at least at the time the pdf was written, could be used to alter some of the early Sartin program ratings (EP and SP). The implication of your reply to my question (to me at least) is that what is labelled as "class adjustment" in the pdf is the same thing as the "class factor/class rating" discussed on this site and in you video. Is that correct? If so, do you still use this figure and in what situations is it helpful or hurtful? Thank you for your time on this matter.

04-21-2007, 03:32 PM	#26
froggy Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bullhead City Az Posts: 921	THE POWER OF APV ON THE GRASS Do the numbers for Kee0421-5(today) Top number won and paid $3.60. The top four numbers paid $780 for the super. No handicapping required. No I didn't have it but I did bet the winner w/p. Froggy

04-22-2007, 04:40 AM	#27
fasthorses Grade 3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 50	Thanks all. Socantra, those 2 references were right on point and very helpful. Bill, thanks for your insights and the video.