Is Thoromation this good? - Pace and Cap

froggy · 02-23-2008, 09:02 PM

In going over the seven races that I figured today at Aqueduct and looking at it with Thoromation I noticed something that I couldn't get with Energy.
I exported the same races and pace lines that I used in Energy from the original RDSS screen.
I threw out some obvious poor horses using total energy that I shouldn't have had in to begin with.
Using the 2 adjustment on every race.
Looking at the 8) Thoromation screen and selecting the top two for win bets and top three for exacta boxes.
The program hit seven out of seven races for the win bets and six out of seven exactas.
Race #8 didn't call for the 2 adjustment and didn't get the winner that way, but with the 2 adjustment it did.

Is this program that good or am I looking at it from hindsight?

In going back over the same races with energy.
I threw out the same poor horses that should never have been included in the first place and then all I could get is the four winners that I already had.

Froggy

shoeless · 02-23-2008, 11:33 PM

You already answered your own question

simon · 02-24-2008, 07:30 AM

Excellent report Froggy

I would say Yes !!!
Keep it going

GS
RK

Condor · 02-25-2008, 08:17 PM

Are there any copies of thoromation that can be purchased any more?

Houndog · 02-26-2008, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by froggy

In going over the seven races that I figured today at Aqueduct and looking at it with Thoromation I noticed something that I couldn't get with Energy.
I exported the same races and pace lines that I used in Energy from the original RDSS screen.
I threw out some obvious poor horses using total energy that I shouldn't have had in to begin with.
Using the 2 adjustment on every race.
Looking at the 8) Thoromation screen and selecting the top two for win bets and top three for exacta boxes.
The program hit seven out of seven races for the win bets and six out of seven exactas.
Race #8 didn't call for the 2 adjustment and didn't get the winner that way, but with the 2 adjustment it did.

Is this program that good or am I looking at it from hindsight?

In going back over the same races with energy.
I threw out the same poor horses that should never have been included in the first place and then all I could get is the four winners that I already had.

Froggy

Froggy, did you also you also use the number 2 adjustment in Energy which is called the Alternate (E) adjust when it was called for? That may make a difference also.

With the earlier versions of Energy it is more of a manual input process. Also you do not get the warning as you do in THOROMATION that a horse may need an alternate adjustment.

lsosa54 · 02-26-2008, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Condor

Are there any copies of thoromation that can be purchased any more?

The company that produced it is out of business now. RDSS is now the way to go and I believe Ted has incorporated the "animation" part, but I could be wrong.

froggy · 02-26-2008, 07:13 PM

Houndog,

The #2) Alternate Adjust doesn't work unless you use the Energy Generator at the start of your download and then if you go thru the routine a second time you only have Automatic Adjust and # 3) Manual Adjust.

I try not to make adjustments.
I might be losing some races, but I feel more comfortable doing the same procedure for every race.

Froggy

froggy · 02-26-2008, 07:17 PM

Condor,

Send me an email.
Lets talk.

Froggy

Tim Y · 02-26-2008, 09:20 PM

Thoromation stands the test of time once you understand it. It is harder work than the later models but the basic information is still there.

02-23-2008, 09:02 PM	#1
froggy Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bullhead City Az Posts: 921	Is Thoromation this good? In going over the seven races that I figured today at Aqueduct and looking at it with Thoromation I noticed something that I couldn't get with Energy. I exported the same races and pace lines that I used in Energy from the original RDSS screen. I threw out some obvious poor horses using total energy that I shouldn't have had in to begin with. Using the 2 adjustment on every race. Looking at the 8) Thoromation screen and selecting the top two for win bets and top three for exacta boxes. The program hit seven out of seven races for the win bets and six out of seven exactas. Race #8 didn't call for the 2 adjustment and didn't get the winner that way, but with the 2 adjustment it did. Is this program that good or am I looking at it from hindsight? In going back over the same races with energy. I threw out the same poor horses that should never have been included in the first place and then all I could get is the four winners that I already had. Froggy Last edited by froggy; 02-23-2008 at 09:07 PM.

02-24-2008, 07:30 AM	#3
simon Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 153	Excellent Excellent report Froggy I would say Yes !!! Keep it going GS RK __________________ Doc and Jim

02-25-2008, 08:17 PM	#4
Condor AlwNW1X Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5	thoromation Are there any copies of thoromation that can be purchased any more?

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