Follow Up Survey - Pace and Cap

Lt1 · 10-03-2025, 04:05 PM

Just completed another 100 race survey on + and +within a box lines. The tracks involved were Parx, TDN, Del, Mth ,and Lrl Here are the results.
RACES Winner + within Box Winner With +line Winner Itm line Bad line
100 40 29 11 20
So after 300 races we now see that horses with a bad line used have won a total of 48 of the 300 or 16%.I strongly suggest the folks pay close attention to the lines they chose. It should help in improving your game.
Tim

kahunab · 10-03-2025, 07:44 PM

Great Data, Tim!

Dick

Lt1 · 10-03-2025, 08:53 PM

Thanks Dick. Hopefully folks will take notice and review their line selections to give themselves a greater chance to succeed.
Tim

shoeless · 10-04-2025, 12:19 PM

Thanks for sharing, Tim

Jeff

Lt1 · 10-04-2025, 10:15 PM

You are welcome Jeff.
Tim

ignacio todoberto bernal · 10-10-2025, 01:21 AM

Thanks Tim,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

ignacio

Lt1 · 10-10-2025, 09:31 AM

You are welcome Ignacio
Tim

Mitch44 · 10-11-2025, 03:51 AM

I have harped on reviewing pace lines for years. And that no one should give up any %
percentage going into a race. However the instant gravitation players just refuse to listen.

That's OK through, as they contribute to those banks where we make those frequent withdraws.

Great survey Tim, congrats.

Mitch44

Lt1 · 10-11-2025, 06:30 AM

Thanks Mitch. As they say you can lead to the water but you can't make them drink.
Tim

shoeless · 10-11-2025, 12:45 PM

Tim

Are these lines taken from the most recent line in the horses PPs?

I hope you don't mind me asking questions

Jeff

10-03-2025, 04:05 PM	#1
Lt1 Grade 1 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Valley Stream NY Posts: 11,466	Follow Up Survey Just completed another 100 race survey on + and +within a box lines. The tracks involved were Parx, TDN, Del, Mth ,and Lrl Here are the results. RACES Winner + within Box Winner With +line Winner Itm line Bad line 100 40 29 11 20 So after 300 races we now see that horses with a bad line used have won a total of 48 of the 300 or 16%.I strongly suggest the folks pay close attention to the lines they chose. It should help in improving your game. Tim __________________ Trust but verify

10-03-2025, 07:44 PM	#2
kahunab Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 323	Great Data, Tim! Dick __________________ Haakon 47 'Something magical happens when you bring together a group of people from different disciplines with a common purpose.' Mark Stefik Palo Alto Research Centre Fellow

10-03-2025, 08:53 PM	#3
Lt1 Grade 1 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Valley Stream NY Posts: 11,466	Thanks Dick. Hopefully folks will take notice and review their line selections to give themselves a greater chance to succeed. Tim __________________ Trust but verify

10-04-2025, 10:15 PM	#5
Lt1 Grade 1 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Valley Stream NY Posts: 11,466	You are welcome Jeff. Tim __________________ Trust but verify

10-10-2025, 09:31 AM	#7
Lt1 Grade 1 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Valley Stream NY Posts: 11,466	You are welcome Ignacio Tim __________________ Trust but verify

10-04-2025, 12:19 PM	#4
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,643	Thanks for sharing, Tim Jeff

10-10-2025, 01:21 AM	#6
ignacio todoberto bernal Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: california Posts: 195	Thanks Tim,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ignacio

10-11-2025, 03:51 AM	#8
Mitch44 Grade 1 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: The Villages, Fl. Posts: 3,872	I have harped on reviewing pace lines for years. And that no one should give up any % percentage going into a race. However the instant gravitation players just refuse to listen. That's OK through, as they contribute to those banks where we make those frequent withdraws. Great survey Tim, congrats. Mitch44

10-11-2025, 06:30 AM	#9
Lt1 Grade 1 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Valley Stream NY Posts: 11,466	Thanks Mitch. As they say you can lead to the water but you can't make them drink. Tim __________________ Trust but verify

10-11-2025, 12:45 PM	#10
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,643	Tim Are these lines taken from the most recent line in the horses PPs? I hope you don't mind me asking questions Jeff

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