Last Thoughts

[socantra]

Originally Posted by shoeless

Just to let you know while Doc had many outstanding ideas on racing his main purpose was to make money.For anyone who doesnt believe this I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

Is there something wrong with the idea of making money out of what you do? I have owned a tavern, a restaurant, a traveling road show, a computer repair business and several other enterprises over the years.

The purpose of every single one of those businesses was to make money. I would not have done any of them for free.

That does not mean that i did not do the best job that i possibly could in every jub that I've had and did not try as hard as I possibly could to deliver the best product of which I was capable. It also does not mean that I did not care about my customers and would not go the extra mile to serve them and make them happy.

We do live in what is supposedly a capitalistic system and my understanding of that form of social organization is that it is not a crime to make money out of what you do in life.

Dick

[socantra]

Originally Posted by partsnut

As with many of my recent posts, I expect this post to be deleted so I made a copy of it and will post it to my users group and blog.

Obviously, with 907 posts, they've been working overtime to keep you muzzled.

Dick

[shoeless]

Just to reiterate what I said at the beginning of my thread is that I wanted to thank everyone who has helped me,which of course has been overlooked by most people who posted comments.Even though my questions were annoying as Socantra pointed out to me before there were others who told me it helped them one way or the other.I just wanted to let them know why I wouldnt be posting anymore[not that's it any big deal if I do or not].


Have fun using the Sartin Methodolgy if that's your cup of tea more power to you.

[partsnut]

Socantra: "

Obviously, with 907 posts, they've been working overtime to keep you muzzled."

In reality, I had over 1000 posts. It seems that some of my posts mysteriously disappeared. If you are up on your math then you can figure it out.
This happened to me and no one else so we can't blame the server for that. So for whatever the reasons were and I'm sure that I may even hear some lame excuse for this, it is not acceptable to me as well as being dictatorial and I know that this was done on purpose. However, life is a 2 way street and just as I can choose to post my honest opinions, there are those that can choose not to read them. Let me also add that your snide remarks are shallow and have very little substance or meaning to me and gives me a strong inclination as to what your true character is.

[Bill V.]

I have not deleted post for any other reason than
I felt it was the best thing for the group
I stand by Ted and Rich and there actions

you call the reason lame

It is true and I deleted blocks of post based on time fram
Others lost post too. Its just that they
took this problem up with me in private emails

Bill

[xtb]

Originally Posted by partsnut

Socantra: "In reality, I had over 1000 posts. It seems that some of my posts mysteriously disappeared. If you are up on your math then you can figure it out.
This happened to me and no one else so we can't blame the server for that. So for whatever the reasons were and I'm sure that I may even hear some lame excuse for this, it is not acceptable to me as well as being dictatorial and I know that this was done on purpose.

If you'll notice, individual posts from contests have been deleted, perfectly understandable because they add up quickly and take up space without adding any content. Mine are gone and so are everyone else's. It is acceptable to me.

I know some people have gauged their contribution to this site by the number of their posts and not the content, that's unfortunate.

[socantra]

Originally Posted by xtb

If you'll notice, individual posts from contests have been deleted,

Oh No! Timeless prose wiped out. I was particularly fond of one of mine. I believe it was "$6 to win #4, $4 to win #7".

Partsnut, you're right. My last post was a bit snide and I apologize if I offended you.

I do not believe, however, that anyone on this board is going to great lengths to censor you, or anyone else. Bill has announced many times that civility will be enforced. That is not the case in many places on the net, but it is here.

He also has every right to edit for space, since he pays the bills. If you feel a particular post that was important has been removed, the proper procedure is to contact Bill in private and try to work it out.

If you can not work it out, remember that it is Bill's football and the rest of us are all guests. As guests, our last option is to leave, not to stand in the middle of the room and scream about how unfairly we are being treated.

Dick

[VoodooFan]

Originally Posted by xtb

It baffles me how some people feel they "have the right" to enter someone's establishment and behave however they want. It makes me wonder how these same people act as a guest in someone else's home. Do they really believe that their "rights" supercede a host's right to create and operate a website how the host wishes? There is nothing preventing these same people from creating their own websites to exercise their "freedom of speech", except themselves.

Originally Posted by Ted Craven

So if a post is discourteous or uncivil (e.g. 'you're an asshole/idiot/thief') it will be editted or deleted. If someone actually is an asshole, or a know-it-all, or a bully, or a rabble-rouser in their private life, or community or social circle - that is not the issue or responsability of anyone here to change that, only to prevent that behaviour from disrupting THIS community.

Absolutely amazing. Good explanation.

No matter how you explain it, " if I don't get my way, some crime has been committed."

The bible is approximately 6,000 years or 60 centuries of warners, prophets, messengers, apostles, preachers, etc., all to no avail, look at the world today.

And I am not excluding myself as the problem.

So what are you gonna say in in 1 minute that could'nt get thru in 1,000's of years?

People want to believe what they want, and want what they want, whether they are right or wrong, it doesn't matter.

People can die over and over again thru their mistakes, you can dig them up over and over and give them another chance of life, and what will they do...???

Probably be a more properly skilled at invoking their hearts desire, whether it's right or wrong, whether it steps on someone else's rights or not, they want what they want, period.

And not even God or an Act of God will EVER change their opinion.

Folks, all you gotta do is look at THE FOLLOW UP....that's what Bill has been tryin to model this post after.

So if you did'nt like THE FOLLOW UP or seminars, you probably don't like this forum.

Did'nt remember reading Doc going back and forth to several clients or participants in a piss match.

Don't remember the Pirco Charter Teaching members , in example, THE HAT saying anyone believing in jockeys or trainers like Tom Brohamer is a stupid so and so, they had some measure of class, though their methods differ.

Doc wrote about anything PROVABLE over multiple 20 race cycles that will ENHANCE or increase the power of the Sartin Methodology.

Which means either/and more consistant wins than previously, more money, higher mutuals.

Freedom of Speech on the flip side also has Freedom of Consequences.

Freedom of Speech is not 100% perfectly literal.

You can say "FIRE!" in a crowded theatre.......You can say to the President of the United States to his face that he should be killed....you can also have a loud phone conversation in theatre at a premiere......but what would happen?

Would the Freedom of Speech arguement exhonerate you in court? Are you willing to put your dollars on that?

.....if you call the Judge in court a dirty name multiple times, he can give you a contempt of court and land you a fine and jail time.....A COURT, an American court, where FREEDOM OF SPEECH was established ,enforced and protected...,

So can I come to your house , work or establishment an exercise MY freedoms, irregardless of the rules and code of conduct?

Hell, Freedom..., I can get about 50 people in a golf course, pay their way, then dribble basketballs all on the course, or lie on the course all over and have a picnic while people are actively playing, so how far is too far?

How bout me interrupting your conversation and verbally challenging you everytime you talk to someone else, though I be a complete stranger, I have the freedom of speech.

So how far is too far ?

Basically, " if I don't get my way, you suck, period."

Proper place and proper time for things.

VoodooFan

[Tim Y]

there is no accepted usage of the word irregardless.
—Usage note Irregardless is considered nonstandard because of the two negative elements ir- and -less. It was probably formed on the analogy of such words as irrespective, irrelevant, and irreparable. Those who use it, including on occasion educated speakers, may do so from a desire to add emphasis. Irregardless first appeared in the early 20th century and was perhaps popularized by its use in a comic radio program of the 1930s.

*** Hey - this thread is, in part, about civil discourse. Please don't bait the other posters, it's not nice. Enough said. No response is necessary, thanks. (Ted)

[xtb]

Originally Posted by Tim Y

there is no accepted usage of the word irregardless.

The first word in a sentence should be capitalized.