Graded Stakes Contest - Feedback Please

[Ted Craven]

I like the idea of a $10 unit, covering 1 or more win bets or win/place bets only ($2.00 minimum bet). That does leave out exactas, but the simplicity could tend to focus the mind and make it more in parallel with common tournament practise (while retaining a nod to the Sartinesque multi-horse approach).

Ted

[Turbulator]

Originally Posted by Ted Craven

I like the idea of a $10 unit, covering 1 or more win bets or win/place bets only ($2.00 minimum bet). That does leave out exactas, but the simplicity could tend to focus the mind and make it more in parallel with common tournament practise (while retaining a nod to the Sartinesque multi-horse approach).

Ted

I don't have a problem with a multi-horse win-bet format or a single horse win-bet format or even a single horse WP format. They all work for me. The only thing I would add is that if you allow multi-horse win betting why restrict it to just two horses? Allow as many as your heart desires.

But if you do allow for more than two horses more money would have to be allocated in order to properly dutch say, three, four or five horses.

Some other ideas suggested that I like are subtracting losses. I'm neutral on capping the odds. I like the idea of mimicking an existing national contest. I'm against including exactas, but I'm all for a separate exacta only contest down the road.

That's all I have to say. I'm sure whatever y'all decide on will be OK.

[Ted Craven]

Right: 1 or more, as in 1,2,3... And it occurred to me that the tabulator(s) don't have a math problem with figuring out the payoff on a $3.00 bet (1.5 x mutuel) so there should be no problem with $1.00 minimum bets (.5 x mutuel).

So, I suggest $1.00 minimum win or place bets - $10 total unit per race. You could go lower than $1.00 but you have to stop somewhere!

Ted

[dogkatcher]

I like the idea of $10 unit for the race, and play it any way you can concieve of. No exotics. Also favor a cap, as if Giacomos half brother Tiago wins the Derby we'll have another $100 payout and many will lose interest in continuing due to being so far behind (not me, as am used to that position)!

Coming from the retired community, love the Free part, and whatever is decided upon will be graciously accepted. Good Luck and Good Health to ALL.

[Bob Cochran]

Hi Rich. I think another contest would be great. I don't know if it would be fair
to limit the type wagers, the amount per race you could set up.

I had no problem the way the FGX contest was set up. Everyone seemed
satisfied and had fun.
Since all of the pace and cap group have different wagering styles, it seems
rather restrictive to allow win and place betting only. IMHO

[partsnut]

Ritchie,

I have to hand it to you. Once again you've created lots of interest.
When it comes to contests, I'm there.
Thanks to you, I entered the Keenland contest and caught it just in time.
It's a win bet format and if your entry scratches you get the favorite in the race. Ater the first 2 days I'm at 208th with a lot of races to go.
Foregos posts have rejuvenated my thinking and methods and once again I'm back to the methodology. He's a major contributor to the board and I truly appreciate his work and Input. thanks Forego.

You might want to consider The BRIS rules where you pick a primary and secondary choice. If your primary choice scratches, you get your secondary choice.
You are credited with the win and the place Mutual and the win and place bets are capped at 20-1 to win and I think the place bets are capped at 15 or 16-1. Ask Gary or Bob Cochran, they could verify this.

Ritchie, Thanks for your good works.

[JimG]

Originally Posted by partsnut

Ritchie,

I think the place bets are capped at 15 or 16-1. Ask Gary or Bob Cochran, they could verify this.

10-1

[howlinwolf]

i also like the one horse win bet per race. should help to focus our winner picking ability.

[RichieP]

Great feedback and it's still early. Here is where my head's at after reading your input.

1) I like Jim G's idea of NOT opening a cash contest to new posters. If you don't have FIVE (5) posts before 4/09/7 you are NOT eligible to participate.

2) $10.00 per race to bet win or win/place in ANY way you want. NO exotics.

3) Cap on win payoffs of 20/1 ($42.00) and place payoffs at 10/1($22.00).

4) We allow betting up until ONE (1) mtp. We will use the "off" time of the race according to Equibase result chart as "post". Please note that if the off time says 5:00 and your posting of bet says 4:58 the bet is NOT allowed.

5) The 2 passes for Saratoga will go to the highest total in the 3Triple crown races.If the prize is turned down because he can not attend the next in line gets the shot and so on down the line til the prize is claimed.
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So that's where I'm at early on ok? PLEASE continue to give feedback and ideas.

We have 3 friends of P&C who have generously donated $450.00 in cash for a prize fund.

If you like what is going on with the site and stuff we do here and can contribute something toward the prize fund it would be greatly appreciated. Please contact either Bill V or myself PRIVATELY through PM and we will forward the amount to the board. Any and all donations to the prize fund are returned 100% to the contestants.

Again it's early on but it appears there is enough interest to have a contest.

I NEED HELP with the Overall scoring please. I will tally the days totals. I need someone to update the Overall standings weekly.


Keep posting up your interest in playing plus and feedback ok? It is most welcome and appreciated

thanx
Richie

[RichieP]

Originally Posted by howlinwolf

i also like the one horse win bet per race. should help to focus our winner picking ability.

Hi Howlin,
You are NOT eligible to participate in THIS contest as this is your initial post ok?

Contest is open to established POSTING members as of 4/09/07. With this being a cash contest I hope you can understand my reasoning here. Nothing personal.

Having gotten that out of the way welcome to Pace and Cap. We are a close community of dedicated horseplayers. You are more than welcome to post up in the future on things that interest you.

Richie Pizzicara