Belmont Workshop - Pace and Cap

jms62 · 06-06-2006, 12:37 PM

I heard the following from several very reliable handicappers. Contrary to what alot of handicappers feel, the Belmont does not favor deep closers. Horses that are near the lead are the ones that fair the best. With that I'm giving first crack at identifying the pace type of all horses in the race. Feel free to shoot me down..

Bluegrass Cat - P
Bob and John - P
Deputy Glitters - P
Hemmingways Key - S
High Finance - EP
Jazil - S
Oh So Awesome-S
Platinum Couple-S
Sacred Light-S
Steppenwolfer-S
Sunriver-P (S/P ?)
Double Galore EP

With that said main win contenders before cranking the numbers through Spec would be (in no order)
Bluegrass Cat
Bob And John
Deputy Glitters
Sunriver

Interested to see what the Matchup folks feel will be the pace of this race.

tompkins · 06-06-2006, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62

I heard the following from several very reliable handicappers. Contrary to what alot of handicappers feel, the Belmont does not favor deep closers. Horses that are near the lead are the ones that fair the best.

one has to be close to the pace POSITIONALLY, but if the energy distribution is not in the low 67 or high 66 median percentage, they run out of gas unless none in the field projects in that range.

The Editor's Note's, Temperence Hill's, Victory Gallop's and Birdstones of the world (plodders) made use of that. But then if you just OUT-Hustle everyone and have enough left (Swale, Conquistador) that works too.

tompkins · 06-06-2006, 07:00 PM

top four last year had the same thing in common: a median in the high 66 to low 67.

tompkins · 06-06-2006, 07:01 PM

similar to the winner

tompkins · 06-06-2006, 07:02 PM

finishers have to have this distribution to last

tompkins · 06-06-2006, 07:04 PM

another one close

jms62 · 06-09-2006, 06:01 AM

Ok... I trusted the software and hit the exacta in the Preakness.. Now I plan on looking like a total fool tomorrow at 6:35...

Top 2 Picks

6-High Finance
5-Oh So Awesome

tompkins · 06-10-2006, 11:44 AM

Bob N John is presenting a troubling bunch of lines into today's contest.

jms62 · 06-10-2006, 02:30 PM

"Bob N John is presenting a troubling bunch of lines into today's contest"

Not sure what you mean there.

tompkins · 06-10-2006, 03:01 PM

horse is either 1) meeting a pace that is too fast for it to handle, 2) going off form 3) animal is running at distances NOT suited for it....usually too long. of course NOT always, but it is troubling when one sees this.

06-06-2006, 12:37 PM	#1
jms62 Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 798	Belmont Workshop I heard the following from several very reliable handicappers. Contrary to what alot of handicappers feel, the Belmont does not favor deep closers. Horses that are near the lead are the ones that fair the best. With that I'm giving first crack at identifying the pace type of all horses in the race. Feel free to shoot me down.. Bluegrass Cat - P Bob and John - P Deputy Glitters - P Hemmingways Key - S High Finance - EP Jazil - S Oh So Awesome-S Platinum Couple-S Sacred Light-S Steppenwolfer-S Sunriver-P (S/P ?) Double Galore EP With that said main win contenders before cranking the numbers through Spec would be (in no order) Bluegrass Cat Bob And John Deputy Glitters Sunriver Interested to see what the Matchup folks feel will be the pace of this race.

06-06-2006, 07:00 PM	#3
tompkins Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 708	median at the Belmont top four last year had the same thing in common: a median in the high 66 to low 67. __________________ velocititian

06-06-2006, 07:01 PM	#4
tompkins Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 708	place the same similar to the winner Attached Images __________________ velocititian

06-06-2006, 07:02 PM	#5
tompkins Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 708	again finishers have to have this distribution to last Attached Images __________________ velocititian

06-06-2006, 07:04 PM	#6
tompkins Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 708	finishing the top 4 another one close Attached Images __________________ velocititian

06-09-2006, 06:01 AM	#7
jms62 Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 798	OMG-Belmont Selections Ok... I trusted the software and hit the exacta in the Preakness.. Now I plan on looking like a total fool tomorrow at 6:35... Top 2 Picks 6-High Finance 5-Oh So Awesome Attached Images

06-10-2006, 11:44 AM	#8
tompkins Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 708	troubling Bob N John is presenting a troubling bunch of lines into today's contest. Attached Images __________________ velocititian

06-10-2006, 02:30 PM	#9
jms62 Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 798	"Bob N John is presenting a troubling bunch of lines into today's contest" Not sure what you mean there.

06-10-2006, 03:01 PM	#10
tompkins Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 708	progressively earlier horse is either 1) meeting a pace that is too fast for it to handle, 2) going off form 3) animal is running at distances NOT suited for it....usually too long. of course NOT always, but it is troubling when one sees this. Attached Images __________________ velocititian Last edited by tompkins; 06-10-2006 at 03:05 PM.

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