Pizzolla and "Two Excuse" method - Pace and Cap

fastcharlie55 · 02-05-2018, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitch44

I only open up the PP's to get a line as the PP's or line tells me to go to another line Jeebs.

Pizzolla will use a 5 F turf race for a dirt route (taking its best in the chart) which I would never do that. His line picking is something I would never condone.

Also having tried his BM for a 90 day trial I would not recommend it at all. His pace numbers are the worse I've ever seen and Phase one or TPR are much netter and would outperform them. For a guy that started with Sartin he sure never evolved as far as pace numbers. I believe the flaw is in adjusting the 3rd FR or his PBS numbers. Adjusting those is not adjusting them to todays matchup but he adjusts them to the matchup of that race which is not todays matchup.

If your using RDSS you are using the best out there for pace handicapping.
Mitch44

Remember Pizzolla was a magician and he can make your money disappear.

Jeebs · 02-06-2018, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by fastcharlie55

remember pizzolla was a magician and he can make your money disappear.

:d :d :d

tom · 06-15-2021, 04:11 PM

Blast from the past...spending the afternoon browsing old threads to jog the old memory...semi-annual tune up. I forgot this one - Mike's power 3rd fraction. How was that calculated?

Say a horse runs against a 46 112 pace and gains 5 lengths from the half. Raw he gets a 25 3rd fraction. How did he adjust that?

raceman5 · 06-16-2021, 09:01 AM

I believe he added back the 5 beaten lengths at the half

Ted Craven · 06-16-2021, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by raceman5

I believe he added back the 5 beaten lengths at the half

This is what RDSS does in its PF3 factor (Supplementary section on BLBL and Rx screens - same as Pizzolla's PPF). RDSS just shows the rank, and to do so calculates a modified 3rd (Power!

) fraction velocity and time (not shown). I have always been allergic to hyperbole ...

Tom in your example, if you use .20 seconds per beaten length, you get 25 seconds as you say.

I have no studies to show the situational effectiveness of PPF/PF3. Some people like it. It is not used in any other compounded factors.

Ted

06-16-2021, 09:01 AM	#4
raceman5 Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Largo Fl. Posts: 2,363	Mp I believe he added back the 5 beaten lengths at the half

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06-15-2021, 04:11 PM	#3
tom Grade 1 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 644	Blast from the past...spending the afternoon browsing old threads to jog the old memory...semi-annual tune up. I forgot this one - Mike's power 3rd fraction. How was that calculated? Say a horse runs against a 46 112 pace and gains 5 lengths from the half. Raw he gets a 25 3rd fraction. How did he adjust that?