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Tim Y 04-23-2009 05:05 PM

Derby Pace of race
 
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One never knows what a colt can do unless it is pushed. Look at the Por of these colts. Doesn't ONE stand out?

Tim Y 04-23-2009 05:07 PM

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or this exacta?

Cellarfunk 04-24-2009 11:15 AM

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Why is BB's ranking in the PORSC lower, even though the time is faster? I've seen this for sometime and could never understand how that ranking was figured.

Tim Y 04-24-2009 12:45 PM

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Why is BB's ranking in the PORSC lower, even though the time is faster? I've seen this for sometime and could never understand how that ranking was figured.

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Lasix1 05-01-2009 01:31 PM

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One never knows what a colt can do unless it is pushed. Look at the Por of these colts. Doesn't ONE stand out?

Tim,

Is there a way to get to this screen in RDSS? Many thanks--chuck

Tim Y 05-01-2009 01:36 PM

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Tim,

Is there a way to get to this screen in RDSS? Many thanks--chuck

I don't know since I never used that program. 2009 version

Lasix1 05-01-2009 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Y (Post 53390)
I don't know since I never used that program. 2009 version

Thanks, Tim.

Tim Y 05-01-2009 07:12 PM

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Thanks, Tim.

I just do not know what to do with Regal Ransom or the other Godolphin runner for that matter.

Ted Craven 05-01-2009 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lasix1 (Post 53389)
Tim,

Is there a way to get to this screen in RDSS? Many thanks--chuck

Chuck,

Not yet.

Ted

Lasix1 05-02-2009 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ted Craven (Post 53474)
Chuck,

Not yet.

Ted

Thanks, Ted. I'll watch for it. And thanks for all you've done. I especially appreciate the fix that made the 20 horse derby field possible. Looking forward to tomorrow. best of luck. --chuck

reckless 05-03-2009 09:00 PM

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Chuck,

Not yet.

Ted

Ted, how does that POR feature differ with what you have in RDSS, the Segments module ??

To me it is the same thing, sans numbers.

Ted Craven 05-04-2009 01:29 PM

Ralph,

The Segments screen in RDSS and all the screens based on compounded Velocity are the adjusted Pace of the Horse (i.e. INCLUDING any Beaten Lengths) and NOT the adjusted Pace of the Race. You can see the POR fractional call times on the Adjusted screen in RDSS. The Longshot Screen in Spec160 above shows a mix of POR times added to POH times (check the column captions). Thus, it gives some clue as to how a horse ran itself (POH), against the fastest POR - and of course relative to all other horses (the ranks).

There have been several screens in previous Sartin software showing the comparison of POH to POR (i.e. how a horse set or overcame the pace of the race it faced). Up to this point, I had not been convinced that that screen in Speculator showed this POR/POH relationship in a reliably useful manner and so I left it out. I will add it (or something like it) in an upcoming version of RDSS.

Meanwhile, you can see the best adjusted POR among contenders by looking at the Adjusted Screen.

Ted


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