Black Magic - Page 2 - Pace and Cap

vderdak · 06-09-2013, 09:29 PM

I do have it, bought it about 15 years ago.

shoeless · 06-11-2013, 06:19 PM

I know one race doesnt mean anything but Pizzolla had the exacta
in his top 3 horses for the Belmont.

vderdak · 06-12-2013, 07:35 AM

I hit the exacta too but for different reasons, I've been burned by Mike Smith so many times I put him on top with Orb and Oxbow with others underneath for $24 exacta at a dollar a piece, the return was what $161.00 and change, not bad, but for completely different reasons other than I didn't trust the jockey in a big race. Most would say thats not handicapping but I like to think it's intiution regarding big races and possible outcomes with value.

turfbar · 06-14-2013, 10:16 AM

I could write a book about TMH, HM,MM,& Black Magic I"ve been a client since 1994,
believe me they're all the same program, me personally, was not impressed by his video
and if you knew what his method REALLY is either would you. He also claims there are no secrets in his handicapping software ,but as now and I have for years know his secrets and I have tried to get him to reveal,but he is in denial.

shoeless · 06-14-2013, 08:08 PM

If you know his secrets and Pizzolla wont reveal them then why dont you.

I have seen many ask you this on PA but you always seem to duck
the question, f so then why even bring it up.

vderdak · 06-14-2013, 11:13 PM

Yeah if there are secrets lets get them out in the open...I love a good story.

alydar_ David · 06-15-2013, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turfbar

I could write a book about TMH, HM,MM,& Black Magic I"ve been a client since 1994,
believe me they're all the same program, me personally, was not impressed by his video
and if you knew what his method REALLY is either would you. He also claims there are no secrets in his handicapping software ,but as now and I have for years know his secrets and I have tried to get him to reveal,but he is in denial.

You write that in your first post? A tease?

What's your agenda here?

turfbar · 06-15-2013, 09:42 AM

1st let me explain ,I am not the owner of Black Magic or any of MP's software. I am a client, who has downloaded 20 years of files besides purchasing the software itself which I estimate is around 4grand if not more. The files for the software have ranged from $1 to $1.50 . I have a lot of capital invested in my handicapping process and you think I would divulge what I know for FREE.

Like I said MP denies their are secrets and always will along with his posse,(who defends him intensely) but there are and I do guess its' in his best interest to protect is empire.

However if there are any other malcontents out there dissatisfied contact me - privately.

Turfbar

shoeless · 06-15-2013, 10:37 AM

In my opinion out of all of the Pirco group he was the one that attempted
to make it the easiest for the handicapper.

I might be wrong on this but as I understand it, they were not too
happy with him doing so.

shoeless · 06-15-2013, 10:38 AM

Turfbar,

If you didnt bring it up in the first place nobody would ask you to
divulge anything.

06-15-2013, 09:42 AM	#18
turfbar Maiden Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 2	Resonsible 1st let me explain ,I am not the owner of Black Magic or any of MP's software. I am a client, who has downloaded 20 years of files besides purchasing the software itself which I estimate is around 4grand if not more. The files for the software have ranged from $1 to $1.50 . I have a lot of capital invested in my handicapping process and you think I would divulge what I know for FREE. Like I said MP denies their are secrets and always will along with his posse,(who defends him intensely) but there are and I do guess its' in his best interest to protect is empire. However if there are any other malcontents out there dissatisfied contact me - privately. Turfbar Last edited by Ted Craven; 06-15-2013 at 10:50 AM. Reason: added 'privately'

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06-09-2013, 09:29 PM	#11
vderdak Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 130	I do have it, bought it about 15 years ago.

06-11-2013, 06:19 PM	#12
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	I know one race doesnt mean anything but Pizzolla had the exacta in his top 3 horses for the Belmont.

06-12-2013, 07:35 AM	#13
vderdak Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 130	I hit the exacta too but for different reasons, I've been burned by Mike Smith so many times I put him on top with Orb and Oxbow with others underneath for $24 exacta at a dollar a piece, the return was what $161.00 and change, not bad, but for completely different reasons other than I didn't trust the jockey in a big race. Most would say thats not handicapping but I like to think it's intiution regarding big races and possible outcomes with value.

06-14-2013, 10:16 AM	#14
turfbar Maiden Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 2	I could write a book about TMH, HM,MM,& Black Magic I"ve been a client since 1994, believe me they're all the same program, me personally, was not impressed by his video and if you knew what his method REALLY is either would you. He also claims there are no secrets in his handicapping software ,but as now and I have for years know his secrets and I have tried to get him to reveal,but he is in denial.

06-14-2013, 08:08 PM	#15
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	If you know his secrets and Pizzolla wont reveal them then why dont you. I have seen many ask you this on PA but you always seem to duck the question, f so then why even bring it up.

06-14-2013, 11:13 PM	#16
vderdak Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 130	Yeah if there are secrets lets get them out in the open...I love a good story.

06-15-2013, 10:37 AM	#19
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	In my opinion out of all of the Pirco group he was the one that attempted to make it the easiest for the handicapper. I might be wrong on this but as I understand it, they were not too happy with him doing so.

06-15-2013, 10:38 AM	#20
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	Turfbar, If you didnt bring it up in the first place nobody would ask you to divulge anything.