Belmont Stakes - Pace and Cap

PeteC · 06-08-2012, 10:12 AM

Here are the Belmont PP's. Looking forward to Bill L.'s marathon analysis here. I've gone back over several past Belmonts and have not had as much success implementing the Match-Up compared to the Derby and Preakness...

Bill Lyster · 06-09-2012, 11:03 AM

Belmont best mile times:

I chose not to use Dullahan's turf line, but I am still very respectful of it as it represents the best mile time of any contender. Even when he stumbled at the start at SA Paynter ran a pretty good race. I think he repels Unstoppable U and waits for Union Rags and Dullahan and for a price Atigun who can close a little. I would put Street Life somewhere in the trifecta/superfecta mix.

Just a note: Redeemer won yesterday's 10f Brooklyn (paid a little over 2:1 and keyed a modest pick 3) wire to wire, having run 2-1-1, 3-4-2 and 2-1-1 in the pre-finish calls against the fastest paces in his field.

I think there are some prices out there today, so good luck to all.

Bill

Bill Lyster · 06-09-2012, 11:08 AM

Hell, I couldn't even read it: How's this?

Bill Lyster · 06-09-2012, 12:18 PM

Horses in the top three positions in the stretch have won every Belmont since1978

Bill Lyster · 06-09-2012, 10:37 PM

Form holds for the win... Union Rags pressed and was first in line when Paynter faded.

I was hoping Atigun would run him down and for a while it looked like it might happen, but alas, no. Still a good day.

Bill

PeteC · 06-11-2012, 05:39 PM

Thanks Bill. Your analysis of the mile times in the context of today's match-up was really good. Keep up the good work with these marathons...

alydar_ David · 06-11-2012, 08:45 PM

I'm with Pete. Your matchup work, especially on the marathons, is top notch, Bill.

06-09-2012, 11:03 AM	#2
Bill Lyster Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Escondido CA just 25 minutes from where the turf meets the surf - "...at Del Mar" Posts: 2,418	My 2 cents worth Belmont best mile times: I chose not to use Dullahan's turf line, but I am still very respectful of it as it represents the best mile time of any contender. Even when he stumbled at the start at SA Paynter ran a pretty good race. I think he repels Unstoppable U and waits for Union Rags and Dullahan and for a price Atigun who can close a little. I would put Street Life somewhere in the trifecta/superfecta mix. Just a note: Redeemer won yesterday's 10f Brooklyn (paid a little over 2:1 and keyed a modest pick 3) wire to wire, having run 2-1-1, 3-4-2 and 2-1-1 in the pre-finish calls against the fastest paces in his field. I think there are some prices out there today, so good luck to all. Bill Attached Images

06-09-2012, 11:08 AM	#3
Bill Lyster Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Escondido CA just 25 minutes from where the turf meets the surf - "...at Del Mar" Posts: 2,418	Hell, I couldn't even read it: How's this? Attached Images

06-09-2012, 12:18 PM	#4
Bill Lyster Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Escondido CA just 25 minutes from where the turf meets the surf - "...at Del Mar" Posts: 2,418	TVG tidbit Horses in the top three positions in the stretch have won every Belmont since1978

06-09-2012, 10:37 PM	#5
Bill Lyster Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Escondido CA just 25 minutes from where the turf meets the surf - "...at Del Mar" Posts: 2,418	Form holds for the win... Union Rags pressed and was first in line when Paynter faded. I was hoping Atigun would run him down and for a while it looked like it might happen, but alas, no. Still a good day. Bill Attached Images

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06-11-2012, 05:39 PM	#6
PeteC Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 611	Thanks Bill. Your analysis of the mile times in the context of today's match-up was really good. Keep up the good work with these marathons...

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