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12-01-2019, 12:33 PM | #1 |
AlwNW3X
Join Date: Oct 2006
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CSR / Composite Speed Rating
One of many questions.
Has anyone did a serious look (model) of this factor? From Ted's writings he considers it a strong factor. Thanks., gillb |
12-01-2019, 12:48 PM | #2 |
Grade 1
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Valley Stream NY
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Richie Mathie [ R.Math] is the guy to check with. That's his baby and he has great stats on it. Shoot him a p.m. and he'll fill you in.
Tim
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12-01-2019, 03:07 PM | #3 |
AlwNW3X
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CSR / Composite Speed Rating
Can someone please help with this RDSS2 factor.
Matbe r.math Thanks gillb |
12-01-2019, 05:39 PM | #4 |
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Hey gillb send him a pm. I talked with him today he will help you.
Tim
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12-01-2019, 05:51 PM | #5 |
AlwNW3X
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Csr
Hi Tim … thanks
I can't find his email/contact. Bernie |
12-01-2019, 07:42 PM | #6 |
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Bernie I'll send you a pm in a few.
Tim
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12-02-2019, 11:31 AM | #7 |
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Bernie, you can read about the Composite Speed Rating (CSR), new to RDSS2 (i.e. not in older Sartin programs) in the RDSS Documentation PDF found in the RDSS Documentation section.
Here is the link to the RDSS Documentation PDF, which you can download and read for handy reference: http://www.rdss2.com/pubs/RDSS2.1.Glossary.pdf CSR is first mentioned on Page 3 of the Documentation. In the PDF, you can search for Composite Speed Rating or CSR to find other references to this factor. You can also search the P&C site using the Site Search tool (http://www.sartinmethodology.com/googlesearch) to find existing discussions about CSR and its usage. Still, I can recommend you talk to Dick M (rmath) about the work he has done with this and other factors. He has done that a lot in other discussion threads. Ted
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12-04-2019, 06:39 AM | #8 |
The egg man
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Carlsbad, California
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Non Paceline
Hello
Here are some stats from my SoCal RDSS model DMR and SA - All races Factors APV, CR ,CSR, CR+, PL, RX1,2,3 |
12-04-2019, 11:28 AM | #9 |
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Location: Escondido CA just 25 minutes from where the turf meets the surf - "...at Del Mar"
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Bill,
Just a question. Is the CSR stat shown in your post, the original CSR that you get when you open RDSS or is it the adjusted CSR (if required)? The reason I ask is when, say, a horse is running today at 9F but its last or second last race was an 11F or 12F race the usually slow adjusted speed rating from the marathon makes the CSR rank vs the other horses so low as to not be in the top 5 CSR. The CSR can also be low if the last or second to last race involved a significant trouble notation, in which case you might want to have the program not use the troubled race. Regards, |
12-04-2019, 06:35 PM | #10 | |
The egg man
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Lovely weather we are having here in Northern San Diego. If I could I would be building an Ark Bill What I posted from my model is out of the box RDSS. I am not sure how to adjust the CSR numbers What I can do is post my SoCal model sorted to eliminate any race longer than 8.5 furlongs. This way in the few instances were a horse had been running marathons, and now is cutting back to 8.5 or less, I don't think the percentages would be much different. Here is the chart from above but with no races longer than 8.5 furlongs |
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