Non-RDSS/Sartin ideas/seminars?

[CheckMark]

Ted

Will you be having more seminars soon?

I know it is only fair to start with RDSS/Sartin stuff because more people would be interested in that but would there ever be a time where we would include non-RDSS/Sartin ideas/seminars?

[Lt1]

And why exactly would we do that?. Folks need to concentrate on our learning Docs' Methodology without cluttering their minds with outside material. Don't they have enough non Sartin material over at PA to keep you occupied?.
Tim

[Tim Y]

Originally Posted by Lt1

And why exactly would we do that?. Folks need to concentrate on our learning Docs' Methodology without cluttering their minds with outside material. Don't they have enough non Sartin material over at PA to keep you occupied?.
Tim

p. 158 Pace Makes the Race M. Pizzola: " To those who must have a mechanical approach, I can only tell you that you are sentecing yourself to mere COMPETENCE at BEST. One of my favorite quotes is attrbutd to Lao Tse, the compiler of the Ta Te Ching He said, "When the great way is lost, there arises codes and conduct and behavior."

In other words, imagintion and innovation are put to sleep without constant re-evalution of method. Playing this game is competitive and requires an evolution to be ahead of the curve. NOT mandatory, but preferable.

One of thr GREATEST things I learned in both my undergrad years, as well in in medical school: NO SINGULAR METHOD, or source material, is enough to investigate projections into the future. Same goes here in the parimutuel game. You cannot learn anything when the process is static.

[CheckMark]

Originally Posted by Lt1

And why exactly would we do that?. Folks need to concentrate on our learning Docs' Methodology without cluttering their minds with outside material. Don't they have enough non-Sartin material over at PA to keep you occupied?.
Tim

I am not really as active on PA as I used to be because I am on Dave Schwartz's new forum posting about sports (which you and others forbid here) and non-Sartin horse racing topics (which is another forbidden thing here but I do respect it )

I respect what you and others do to this site but if each and every time I have to get bashed for bringing up something non-Sartin related then that's pretty sad

I am on here for running the Sports Forum and that is it because it does not matter what I post to some because they don't like it and that is why I don't post as much on here

Sorry for derailing again Ted I am finished

[ranchwest]

Originally Posted by CheckMark

I am not really as active on PA as I used to be because I am on Dave Schwartz's new forum posting about sports (which you and others forbid here) and non-Sartin horse racing topics (which is another forbidden thing here but I do respect it )

I respect what you and others do to this site but if each and every time I have to get bashed for bringing up something non-Sartin related then that's pretty sad

I am on here for running the Sports Forum and that is it because it does not matter what I post to some because they don't like it and that is why I don't post as much on here

Sorry for derailing again Ted I am finished

Conley, I am not an RDSS user, primarily because I live in a state that does not allow online wagering. I do try to stay within the same area code as the Sartin style as presented here. I have found Ted and this board to be very kind, educational and accomodating. I consider you to be a friend and hope you'll be able to stay within the parameters here.

[Old Arkie Gal]

Conley, bashing is intended to do harm. Critique is offering a different point of view or critically suggesting the strengths and/or weakness of an idea, concept, or point of view. It asks for evaluation or considerations of an idea or position. It is not intended to do harm. It allows for a civilized exchange of ideas. If you continue to write, you will receive critique and it behooves you to listen and to constructively respond to that critique.
Best Wishes,
Pat

[Ted Craven]

Originally Posted by CheckMark

Ted

Will you be having more seminars soon?

I know it is only fair to start with RDSS/Sartin stuff because more people would be interested in that but would there ever be a time where we would include non-RDSS/Sartin ideas/seminars?

There will be seminars at Paceandcap.com only about RDSS and the Sartin Methodology. Soon. I imagine the HTR or Jcapper or Black Magic or HSH software communities would similarly not welcome diverse seminars: that's why each exists in the first place!

Meanwhile ... this Thread is focused on Dick W's method. Let's keep it that way.

Ted

[Lt1]

Well said Ted.
Tim

[Lt1]

Tim I'm not saying that other things shouldn't be explored but only that is a site devoted to the Methodology. I do use other things in my capping, but in my opinion, those things should not clutter this site. Everyone is free to explore whatever they deem useful.
Tim

[Tim Y]

Originally Posted by Lt1

Tim I'm not saying that other things shouldn't be explored but only that is a site devoted to the Methodology. I do use other things in my capping, but in my opinion, those things should not clutter this site. Everyone is free to explore whatever they deem useful.
Tim

See, we BOTH use sources that WORK from around our experinces...

I would NEVER would know what I didn't know without a very solid foundation of the methodology (I was around since 1986 when Phase III was the standard- never really had a "feeling" for things until ENERGY however)

My knowledge of how to investigate maidens was fashioned on repetitive readouts of Early Pace, my understanding of the THEOERETICAL way of evaluating TURF races, I owe to the deceleration concept (HOWEVER working the photfinihs carema for over 10 years has soured my BIG TIME on turf races as the TRIP too often negates the work in projection) Turfers and "two races better than the field mollifies that a little. Style over Substance was a discover via Thoromation, Order within Chaos a result of VP/C, and Speculator gleaned many a key to understanding how to eliminate horse as ell as the early/late concept.

What I attribute the BEST result of association with H. Sartin was the recommendation of outside reading material that was an inspiration for many of his concepts, his incorporation of Yin and Yang and Chinese philosophy (the concept "either...or,)" and I still have several of those texts which I re-read from time to time.

Did not forget all that I learned, just added to it.