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05-17-2015, 09:22 AM | #1 |
AlwNW3X
Join Date: Apr 2015
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Supp. LS
I am not certain how to use this forum so I apologize if this post is in the wrong place. My question is What are the four lines next to the Supp. LS they start with P T T T ?
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05-17-2015, 03:17 PM | #2 |
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Supp. LS?
I really want anyone to explain better the term 'Supp. LS'
I made a Google custom search, The "LS" or line score in which screen of RDSS can I find it and what is the meaning of it, its purpose, etc. Thanking you in advance. DSL |
05-17-2015, 04:18 PM | #3 |
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this page will give you an idea
http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5609
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05-17-2015, 05:57 PM | #4 |
AlwNW3X
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Thanks
I looked at that Glossary before and it is useful but it doesn't answer my question. So much has changed from what is found in the various manuals and examples; it is really difficult to determine what each symbol means. For a person like myself, who only began studying the Sartin Meth. 1 month ago, it is difficult to determine how the various measurements relate to each other so I can rate the horse. So far I have found that the BL/BL has the horses rated very well using the pacelines that either I or the program has chosen; I just wish I could get a mutual higher then $6.00.
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05-17-2015, 08:35 PM | #5 | |
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Deeper BL/BL will bring higher mutuals
With that in your usual array of loses will come.
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05-17-2015, 09:19 PM | #6 |
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Thanks to Fairchild, Rverge, dlivery
Thank you Fairchild for bring up this real & interesting part of RDSS.
OK - Rverge, I like the page http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread. php? t=5609 to help out new RDSS users, this Updated Glossary put out by Bill V, it really starting to give an idea. So, went to Google Site Search, typed in Supp. LS, and I'm starting to read the threads related to 'Supp. LS'. So far, I'm trying to understand the thread with RichieP. at http://paceandcap.com/forums/archive...php?t-207.html So, I still don't have the answers on this important topic 'Supp. LS' T |
05-18-2015, 01:11 PM | #7 | |
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The Sartin Methodology (at least as expounded by Doc Sartin), is typically a multi-horse betting strategy (for Win) and this concept is supported by the philosophy behind the BLBL screen and Odds Line. Thus, (and always presuming they are a Contender to run their race today and NOT seriously disadvantaged by other Matchup considerations) consider betting your Top ranked horse and the longer odds of one of your other Top 3. This has the effect of increasing your hit rate at the expense of net mutuel, but also preserves emotional equanimity and allows for MORE BETS. You will be surprised at how many scenarios you find where the Top ranked horse is 2-1 or 9/5 and the 3rd ranked horse is 3-1 or 7/2 (or much more, if the favourite approaches EVEN or less, or if you skip the favourite) where your 2nd horse wins paying sufficient to still have made such a bet. Even more - Exactas are often mis-priced and that same 9/5 and 3-1 combo comes back at $18-22 or so for a 2 horse box, or $18-$4=14 to 4 or 7/2 or 3.5 to 1. Even a 2-horse bet like EVEN Odds and a 6-1 or higher 2nd horse has merit in the form of a HEDGE: the EVEN odds horse is your hedge and gets you into the game (recoups your wager if it wins) while you solidly aim for the 2nd horse. So often we PASS such a scenario because the favourite looks solid (anybody remember this year's Charlestown Classic and Shared Belief ...). But the next best horse is also solid, and discounted (= Moreno ). Just one of many possibilities in multi-horse wagering, as are Win-Place bets (single horse, multi-pool wagering = 2 chances to cash) So, the BLBL layout and concept is to support 'multi-interest' wagering (in single-race pools) and to encourage you to look a little deeper than the obvious top ranked horses. Of course, top horses often rank on top and win, and pay modestly. So, you'd better have a decent enough hit rate for a diet including these. Though - when a betting favourite IS NOT solidly on top of your Odds Line (again, and a true Contender and not disadvantaged by an Early or Late Matchup analysis) - that is, it has some defects: THEN is when you may gain extra confidence to demote such a horse from Win to Secondary status and reap the better resulting odds on your remaining Contenders. Hope that is a helpful perspective! Ted
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05-18-2015, 03:57 PM | #8 |
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Thank you Ted Craven
Wow! Ted, I'm very satisfied today for what you wrote so complete on 'Supp LS' your response here is one of the best I've known posted here at pace and cap. All this you deserve more than many thanks from all of us.
I really gonna know better from now on! Thank you Ted. DSL |
11-15-2015, 08:50 AM | #9 |
AlwNW3X
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Very good
I have been studying the method and RDSS recently and when I re-read this post I realized how valuable it is. Thank You
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05-17-2015, 11:34 PM | #10 |
The egg man
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Line score
The 4 factors on the RDSS2 sup line score are variations and or Ted's "home brew" of the 4 basic
Sartin supplementary factors. Sartin Pace Number , Fx - which is the same as the FX on the primary factors Entropy and Total Pace Potential The factors you see on RDSS2 are comparable,to what was on Sartin programs like Val4. Ted just "rolled his own"on RDSS with the names and took away the repeated FX |
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