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Old 05-26-2020, 10:28 AM   #1
Mitch44
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Exporting of data & pace lines

I received these questions through a PM and thought it may be of interest to others:

Questions 5/25/20


I hope you guys don't mind be asking a bunch of questions. Here goes.

Do you use the export. I have started. No problems exporting data. If so, how do you evaluate all that information. The key info is scattered all over the spreadsheet.

I only export races I handicapped. Should I export races I don't handicap?

Do you use the default pacelines when handicapping a race? It appears the software almost always selects a paceline with highest adjusted speed rating and/or highest POH for like races. Is that good?

The good part of the program making the paceline selections is that the process is the same on every race. My selection process is variable based on what I see. Would it just be better to accept the RDSS selection.

I have so many questions. I'm thinking a lot better than I did before Saratoga. At least I think I am.

Hope you don't mind this onslaught of questions. It helps to hear what the experts think.


Hi . . . ,
I don't use the export at all and couldn't answer any questions about it. Tim doesn't either. We both or keep data by the old pen & paper. I think Richie does as he keeps a lot of data.


No don't export races you don't handicap. Now some will disagree with that. The reason to do only the races you handicap is that it is a reflection of your contenders and picking of pace lines. It will identify a weakness in those areas. Exporting races you didn't hcp. will just cloud the picture whereas only races you hcp. will provide better and precise information. Not only on contenders and pace lines but the type of races you win or lose etc. etc.


As far as paceline selection I verify the line the RDSS program picks and change it if I disagree. The program will only consider the last 3 lines regardless of distance or surface. The program is probably about 90% efficient but does not employ the Sartin guidelines of best of the last 3 at a comparable distance (within 1 furlong) and a comparable surface.
Horses do have a preferred surface and distance. While they may get some Place and Shows they fail to win unless at their best dis. and surface. Also his guidelines produce better prices because most handicappers are fixated or obsessed with the last race or line.


I strongly suggest you use the Preceptor for final selection within the Sartin guidelines. It considers the POR , adjusted variant and everything. Its absolutely the best pace line selector Sartin invented. It correct about 98% of the time. The exceptions come from distance and how fast a horse may decelerate etc. But for you I would not worry about that and let the Preceptor do the heavy lifting.


Even doing nothing to the program one should be able to obtain 50% winners with a two horse betting procedure. Playing the right races and proper betting or money management should provide you with a profit.


Mitch44

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