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Old 07-04-2007, 10:06 AM   #31
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Horse 9

never faced the 22 pace plus was beaten by the 5 in a tandem last race

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Old 07-04-2007, 10:08 AM   #32
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Horse 10

shows 1 sprint. was aginst the 22. went backwards

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Old 07-04-2007, 10:15 AM   #33
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Chopping out contenders:

we have 4 to work with at the start.

First up we see the 2 and 7 raced together in a tandem with the 7 MOVING quickly ahead of the 2 by the stretch call of the tandem

Positions
#2) 5-5-3-3
#7) 6-6-2-2

7 beats the 2.

2 is now OUT

We also remove the 1 horse who if you look back had that 1 good race against the 22 BUT who's last 5 races were a horror show.

The 1 is now OUT
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Old 07-04-2007, 10:20 AM   #34
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we are down to 2 horses. the 5 and the 7.

2 horse bettors stop here and win the race.

match the 2 QUICK moving positional lines of the 5 and 7 against each other NOW if you are a 1 horse bettor.

#5) 6-5-2-2
#7) 6-6-2-2

WHO is ahead of the other???

The #5.
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Old 07-04-2007, 10:34 AM   #35
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This is an excellent post. Thanks for sharing it. A great example too. A very clear posting even though I didn't do the chant.

I have one question.

I see your emphasis on tandems. I'm uncertain why they should matter unless the tandem race in question qualifies under the 22.0 projected pace criteria that you set. If the tandem is in a differently run race, it would suggest a possible different outcome for each horse dependent on running style and ability against that kind of pace. I might be missing something, or be dead wrong, but I'm very curious as to your intended application of tandems.
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Old 07-04-2007, 10:37 AM   #36
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The Result

Here is the result chart for the race.

LOOK at what happened to the #6 when he finds himself OUT OF POSTION and running on the lead. LOOK.

He has no damn idea what the heck to do with the lead so he runs as fast as he possibly can and goes too fast too early.

Ok?

You will see this time and time and time and time and time again IF you look for it.
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There was a contest race couple of weeks back on the grass. SAME THING.

The 6/5 fav was gonna go for the lead today and hadnt had it before. I told Hat before the race ran he was DEAD meat. SAME THING happened and he was crushed by the winner and place horse. All the folks betting him not understanding this idea are still wondering what the hell happened. We know what happened. He was out of position. Btw I lOST the race with my bet on the place horse.
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You WILL see this time and time and time and time and time and time again IF you LOOK for it.

Jim will come on in a day or so and describe what he told me before the race ran. he will show you something that frankly I NEVER even thought of regarding the #5! Amazing.

This concludes my work in the thread. I hope I was able to convey this concept in a way that you can understand ok? THIS is VERY powerful.

When (not if) you start working these races and begin winning them YOU are definitely doing some VOODOO. Make NO mistake about it.

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Old 07-04-2007, 10:38 AM   #37
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This is an excellent post. Thanks for sharing it. A great example too. A very clear posting even though I didn't do the chant.

I have one question.

I see your emphasis on tandems. I'm uncertain why they should matter unless the tandem race in question qualifies under the 22.0 projected pace criteria that you set. If the tandem is in a differently run race, it would suggest a possible different outcome for each horse dependent on running style and ability against that kind of pace. I might be missing something, or be dead wrong, but I'm very curious as to your intended application of tandems.

"tandems are to be used when they help you and discarded when they do not" - Jim Bradshaw
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Old 07-04-2007, 11:06 AM   #38
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thanks for the reply. Your application of this method is very powerful and well thought out.

Your answer, quoting Jim suggests that I might be right. I would suggest that tandems are useful when the race suits your projected pace, and are not useful when the pace is radically different.

When we look at the #9 horse

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never faced the 22 pace plus was beaten by the 5 in a tandem last race
I can understand elimination by the 22.0 pace, which is fast at MNR for this level, but the tandem race was 22.9 which is a tad more customary of a pace, leaves me still curious.

Also, this leads to another question. If the horse never faced a 22.0 pace, and is more of a "sustained" type, should that matter, especially if the pace is out of sorts for that track/distance/surface par? It might be safe to suggest that the faster they go against the par, the more it benefits horses that are late in the field, much like it benefited the 5.
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Old 07-04-2007, 11:10 AM   #39
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Hello Rich

when I woke up and it was very calm I listened to the chant
then I looked over the race

" When there is NO lead or boss horse crazy things WILL happen Rich. Someone HAS to take the lead and whomever that is AUTOMATICALLY is running OUT of their natural position. You can see them looking around thinking "like what is going on here". They will do crazy things" - The Hat"

I have a very good feel for this race

I did the race with Val 4
I think its fantastic that what your teaching in this lesson will work
for any method. Thank you so much
Hi Rich
I got It
My thoughts were the 4 and the 5 I see how tight it was with the 7
things would have worked out for me If i did the race because i was getting $13.00 + on a 5/2 ML and I didn't even put in the FAV
#6 Thanks for your explanations and screen shots
The chant and your teaching helped me
I did the race as if Doc were looking over my shoulder
and I was in a good place focused
I used val 4 basic line selection and used the MUG and E/L
screen along with BLBL
This method is 100% a plus thank you!!!
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Richie. Do you always use the last line to match the contenders.

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