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08-02-2010, 02:33 PM | #1 | |
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So now the question becomes: "How do we consistently get horses like these ..?" Remember, this horse "only" has POSITION and POWERMOVE in his past performance from that position or further. How do we use POSITION and when do we know when to use it? Either we wait for a number of NEED-TO-LEAD horses that are of equal talent at the first call to kill each other so we know what POSITION the winner will most likely come from......., .........or we stack all the EARLY runners to determine "Early or "Other-Than-Early" and eliminate them all and simply find and bet the OTE that is closest to lead positionally factoring in pace of race, like this......, http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...1&postcount=41 .....but if we did that, it would eliminate #6 Kim's Gold who ONLY had POSITION and POWERMOVE from that position or further. So, next homework/research assignment is to see does stacking the EARLY like this-- http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...1&postcount=41 --also gives us a potential POSITION point from which the OTE winner will come from......so maybe two matchups, matching the two BEST Other-Than-Early to find the winner......, 1) The 1st OTE will be from " the closest to the lead positionally factoring in pace of race" 2) The 2nd OTE will be the best from POSITION with a POWERMOVE from that position or further........., and "IF" he has fractions comparable to todays projected, so much the better, more SECONDARY corollaries and Match Up math to laser in on our ONE horse and give us confidence in our decision, as INTUITION is the PRIMARY factor. ......back to "Hat Check"....., VoodooFan |
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08-02-2010, 02:50 PM | #2 | |
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Primary "INTUITION" got #6 Kim's Gold, not math, jockeys, a paceline, variants, rails in or out, trainer stats, sire ratings, tote action, leg wraps, blinkers, dosage, you name it..., Lets Get-The-Horse, "First"...., "EARLY" or "OTHER-THAN-EARLY" VoodooFan |
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Positions, Beaten Lengths & Match Up lengths
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#6- http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...7&postcount=11 VoodooFan Last edited by VoodooFan; 08-02-2010 at 09:13 PM. |
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Bears repeating Last edited by VoodooFan; 08-02-2010 at 09:48 PM. |
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08-02-2010, 11:48 PM | #5 |
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Let's start with NEED-TO-LEAD horse:
Seen this a few times. A NEED-TO-LEAD horse whether he is GOOD or BAD, B-U-T, has NO fractional or positional challengers or equals at the 1st call...., ........ there are NO positions to count, because he DOMINATES , EXCLUSIVELY, that 1st call...., .............. and there are NO 2nd/3rd position horses with equal or faster pace of race at 1st call and 2nd call....., .........and there are NO FASTEST PACE LAST RACE Early or O-T-E..., .........and there are NO 4th and further who has powermoves, powerline, faster pace of race fractions because they are simply TOO FAR BACK...., ........an "ugly" NEED-TO-LEAD horse that is deteriorating can still win the race, especially when he normally holds the lead until the stretch before he coughs up a liver. ********* Remember this horse? ********* http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...3&postcount=19 Compared to the "others" there ARE no OTHER POSITIONS to count, although he is a pretty "ugly", deteriorating Early, knee-jerk is to throw him out and look for OTHER-THAN-EARLY....., there is NONE, position-wise or otherwise. Look at that = Minds Eye = on this Early horse, 3rd line. Looking for n-i-i-i-i-c-c-c-e looking, pretty, formful pace lines or do we DO what is instructed : Back to the basics, man..., be honest, we forget and usually throw him out, if not, you're keeping true and retaining the basics. I did not because I keep forgetting. Looks like I have to do like some holy men in isolated Temples and repeat and chant over and over and over again for hours and days or weeks until its "1st-sight"/ "2nd nature"......., ......or sound like Rain Man, repeating over and over, like Turrets syndrome.., VoodooFan |
08-03-2010, 01:25 AM | #6 |
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Bears repeating. Let's put our Stetsons on and get to that "HAT" zone, its a nice place to be. |
08-03-2010, 06:17 PM | #7 |
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Hi guys
This forum was asked to be created by Charlie D and others to keep a line open for those who like to "match" horses. From the posts in this forum by folks it is apparent that there are MANY different forms/methods/procedures to accomplish this "matching". It is as it should be in my opine and it's all good! The "Hat Check" forum is the way that Jim taught ME and he was first to admit that he taught his students differently after speaking with them to determine their strengths/weaknesses. THAT way is the focus of that forum and those that are interested can study there at their convenience. THIS forum has taken on the life of something kinda nice (I.M.H.O) in that there is a broad scope of different ideas etc all leading to the end result - WHO IS THE BET (S) I like the fact that virtually all the time a winner is had that the winning capper has taken the time (both before and after) the race runs to give a bit of EXPLANATION as to the thought and decision making process. This goes for those using software as a tool and raw by the pps only stuff. It is ALL GOOD man BTW feel free to post up races when you see one that you like. Just get the full pps up with screenshots (or links to the race pps) for ALL to be able to see, access and work (whether they post or not your time taken to do this helps EVERYONE and Jim would like that VERY much!) Good matching!
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