waiver claiming

[Tim Y]

Add another name, but it is the same principle: allowing a level of race competition that lets SOME of the horses in the field be eligible to be claimed and some NOT...Simple as that

[Bill V.]

No sir, It is more than just a different name ,Optional claimers are carded to increase field sizes Many tracks do not have enough horses to fill the Allowance 1,2,3x races
So they allow claiming horses in to compete and fill the race will the non winner X types, The claimers can move up and down But they should be able to compete against the allowance horses with out the fear of them being claimed .

If you read FTL's explanation you will see how the 10 HORSE above is permitted to waive any claim, The horse has been off 327 days It was hurt, after its only start.
The owner had to feed and nurse the horse back for 1 yea. Costing lots of money out of pocket.
Now that its ready to run. The owner wants something back to recoup the cost of care , with out having to drop the horse to a lower claiming level and loose even more money

Both conditions optional and waiver are carded to fill races , but they are not the same:-)
Bill

[Tim Y]

No matter the reasons BEHIND IT: they are the same, i.e.limited liability for a claim within trying to keep a race competitive. Nothing MORE, nothing LESS.

To view them as different is to be splitting hairs WELL BEYOND rationality

[Bill V.]

Originally Posted by Tim Y

No matter the reasons BEHIND IT: they are the same, i.e.limited liability for a claim within trying to keep a race competitive. Nothing MORE, nothing LESS.

To view them as different is to be splitting hairs WELL BEYOND rationality

Tim, once again I offer you facts , yet all you can do is contradict with your opinion,

I guess you know more than the Daily Racing form NYRA, California and the Maryland Racing Commission

From The DRF,

Waiver Claiming Races

Exactly what FTL wrote, and fits horse 10 above to a T.

" An owner may opt to declare a horse ineligible from claimed provided the horse has not stated for a minimum of 180 days and the horse is entered
for a claiming price egual to or greater than the price at which it last started.

The owner must declare his horse ineligible to be claimed at the time of entry, and the horse will be ineligible o be claimed only for the first start
following the layoff."

"The purpose of the rule is to reward those people who have taken care of their horses" said Dan Eidson, the secretary for the New York Racing Association. " It gives them a little incentive. It works well in California"

Optional Claiming Races.

From the Maryland Racing Commission

1. The winner of an Optional Claiming Race, If entered not to be claimed,
shall be considered a winner of an allowance race,

2. A winner of an Optional Claiming Race if entered to be claimed, Shall be
considered a winner of a claiming race

There you go They are 2 separate racing conditions.

Bill