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Old 06-13-2014, 11:01 AM   #1
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Thoromation Del 4

I began this topic in the teaching area
I wanted to confine the Entropy/Thoromation topic to
this area

Here is the link to the teaching thread
http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthr...7304#post97304

here is the Entropy sort

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Here is the race in thoromation

She's Thoromation Del 4.mp4

here are some profile and model readouts

Horse 1 EP 899 907
Horse 4 S 965 961
Horse 5 S 927 964
Horse 7 SP 902 893

Thoromation 1 adjust

EP 1 - D
EXDC A B C
SP B C A
DPH (mp) A C
Thoro A D C

1= A
4= B
5= C
7= D

Thoromation get the winner 2nd (D)
The 4 (B) is last
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Old 06-13-2014, 08:01 PM   #2
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good lesson, Bill V.

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Horse 1 She's could go wire to wire. If she fails who will catch her ?
That is the decision. Is it horse 7 or 4. 
At this point I would go to thoromation but just using Phase I 
I would look at total pace and total energy and energy excretion. Once again thank you to Ted for putting everything in Phase 1 on one screen. 

Horse 7 and 4 are tied on TPR but horse 7 has a 2 point advantage on 
total energy. As for as energy horse 4 and 7 both use there energy 
more early than late If horse 4 had the same readouts but had a higher 
lp than ep I would have bet the 4 

The phase 1 bets here would be 1 and 7 split 60/40 
The #7 horse may have a 2 point advantage on total energy, but personally, from studying the concepts of Jim Bradshaw's Matchup Book. It may improve one's analysis of the matchup and taking a page out of his matchup principles and applying the concept in this matchup..

I do not see the "energy screen" but I am sure that horse #7 has a significant advantage at the 1st call of the energy readouts. Bradshaw has stated on many occasion that when a horse does not have to exert as much energy early in the pace matchup, the horse will have more left in the 3rd fraction.

In simple terms: if horse #7 has an early advantage in energy at the first call in this match-up, the horse can run one-fifth slower at the first call and one-fifth slower at the second call, which will enable this horse to run two-fifth faster for the 3rd fraction, according to the "matchup principles" of Jim Bradshaw.

It may not matter in this particular matchup since the #7 horse is in the top two of Thoromation, but there will be races where a 3rd ranked or 4th ranked horse will move up to the top two rankings based on Bradshaw's matchup principles. This principle is mute for those who are already successful in whatever programs that they are using.
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Energy

Choa you are correct
Horse 7 owns the dream race first fraction.

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horse 7 is also # 1 (100 ) fastest on the Velocity Pars screen

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I find this screen helpful. Here I see how the 4 fails. Even with the early pressure match up the 4 is too slow early and decelerates
just about the same as the early horses. The difference is the 4 is a one move closer. It owns the 100 in the 3rd fraction. Entropy does a great job showing the match up. This is why I did not use the 2 adjust. Horse 4 is a one move slow horse.
If I did use the 2 adjust the 4 wins the race on thoromation. This is the power of Entropy
and starting with Phase 1

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