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Pace Makes the Race / TPR Discussion, Examples, Lessons from Total Pace Ratings (TPR) aka 'Phase I' from the book 'Pace Makes the Race' |
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08-24-2017, 09:02 PM | #1 |
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FTL Paceline selection ?
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In order what are the 5 most important things you do when you are picking pace lines Jeff |
08-24-2017, 09:23 PM | #2 | ||
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08-25-2017, 04:36 PM | #3 |
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Nice to get back to where it all starts Basics 1,2,3
Thanks for the reminder of what and where we need too draw a line through
This is such a good remider of what we all need to do are read the conditions or when the conditions are starting to get muddy and not clear I would pass the race as I m not sure where to look for a winner when it starts to get unclear Next Race As Bill V would say onward and forward and good skill.
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08-25-2017, 06:29 PM | #4 |
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For those who maybe having problems with paceline selection may I suggest reading Follow Up 81 the publishers section where Doc explains the modern day Methodology approach. Also go to the video section and watch the Docs'1998 one on one video seminar consisting of 3 vids and a carefully explained step by step approach. It should answer most the questions you may have.
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08-25-2017, 08:56 PM | #5 |
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Another excellent source to check out are the Brohamer audio tapes. Tom provides his method of contender & paceline selections.
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08-30-2017, 07:52 PM | #6 | |
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Although Jeebs answered your question directed to me, for me, let me offer this; go to this link http://paceandcap.com/forums/forumdi...116&order=desc where you will find races I posted that start at the beginning and go to the end, including a rundown on each horse. As I recall, you will also find the PP’s for every horse in the race so you can look at them and follow along. You will probably need to go back to page 3 or 4 pages since it has been 3 or 4 years since I posted on a regular basis. Just find my posts and read through them. They are all done the same way so it should be easy for you to follow. Now, I have a question for you. I seem to recall that in a post I read somewhere, you use ENERGY. There is more than one ENERGY program. Which one do you use? The one WITH BL/BL or the one WITHOUT?
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09-01-2017, 10:51 PM | #7 |
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Hi FTL
Thanks for the link I am using the one without, pretty sure it is Energy V I did not realize they had one with it Jeff |
09-02-2017, 02:30 AM | #8 | |
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There is no BL/BL, no line score (LS) and no thoromation. When I get a couple of minutes I'll put up a recent race for you.
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09-02-2017, 08:47 AM | #9 |
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FTL I am Looking forward to your race demo
Jeff is a very good user of Energy He sends me good reports all the time, Jeff and FTL There are many versions of energy floating around Just because your main menu screen might look the same, Jim Bradshaw was always tweaking the program adding new readouts or changing the algorithms. He also would make custom copies, That is why some people have energy in a 3 call format where the entry screen looked like this Most copies use the 4 call format i have a version called EXDC. It has just about every thing Energy, Phase 1, Entropy ,Thromation and an odds line generator Jim Bradshaw just kept adding readouts and combining programs if a client wanted it. Energy and KGEN were awesome programs Bill |
09-02-2017, 10:28 AM | #10 |
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FTL and Bill
I am using the 3 call version and the opening screen looks the same FTL I as well would be interested to see how you go about using the energy program if you wouldn't mind doing so. Jeff |
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