Not for Dummies - Pace and Cap

Bill V. · 12-27-2012, 07:58 PM

As a gag Christmas gift I was given the book
Betting on Horse Racing For Dummies
by Richard Eng

In Chapter 11 : Starting with the right tools:The Daily Racing Form and More

on page 137

Separating the contendersfrom the pretenders

" within minutes on a 8 race card of about 70 horses, I can eliminate
30 to 40 percent of the horses I think are too slow to win. I save time by
eliminating the pretenders - even if a rare $60 horse sneaks below my
radar screen. Even if I did handicap those eliminated horses with a fine tooth
comb, I'd probably still miss that 30-1 horse that beats me. If I miss 1 or 2
of those bombs (racetrack jargon for a long shot winner) per month
I still end up picking many more logical, mid priced $12 to $15 winners
instead, so eliminating the preceived slow horses is worth it."

Sound pretty smart to me

JimG · 12-27-2012, 08:13 PM

I've set next to Richard Eng before for two days at the NHC finals a few years ago. He is far from a dummy and I am sure his book has some good information. He seemed to be a very knowledgeable horse player.

Jim

chuckg · 12-28-2012, 06:05 PM

Bill V.
A very smart post on contender selection. What caught my interest about it was the "within minutes" phrase. I know I had read something like that just recently.

I found it here from Follow-up no. 2 Beginner's Column

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I'm thinking that the speed at which they both selected contenders for an entire card, minutes for R. Eng and 30 seconds for T. Brohamer, must be very important. Probably that if we take enough time we will find a reasonable way to exclude the winner from our contender list.

12-27-2012, 07:58 PM	#1
Bill V. The egg man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Carlsbad, California Posts: 10,005	Not for Dummies As a gag Christmas gift I was given the book Betting on Horse Racing For Dummies by Richard Eng In Chapter 11 : Starting with the right tools:The Daily Racing Form and More on page 137 Separating the contendersfrom the pretenders " within minutes on a 8 race card of about 70 horses, I can eliminate 30 to 40 percent of the horses I think are too slow to win. I save time by eliminating the pretenders - even if a rare $60 horse sneaks below my radar screen. Even if I did handicap those eliminated horses with a fine tooth comb, I'd probably still miss that 30-1 horse that beats me. If I miss 1 or 2 of those bombs (racetrack jargon for a long shot winner) per month I still end up picking many more logical, mid priced $12 to $15 winners instead, so eliminating the preceived slow horses is worth it." Sound pretty smart to me

12-28-2012, 06:05 PM	#3
chuckg Grade 1 Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 168	Bill V. A very smart post on contender selection. What caught my interest about it was the "within minutes" phrase. I know I had read something like that just recently. I found it here from Follow-up no. 2 Beginner's Column I'm thinking that the speed at which they both selected contenders for an entire card, minutes for R. Eng and 30 seconds for T. Brohamer, must be very important. Probably that if we take enough time we will find a reasonable way to exclude the winner from our contender list.

12-27-2012, 08:13 PM	#2
JimG Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 992	I've set next to Richard Eng before for two days at the NHC finals a few years ago. He is far from a dummy and I am sure his book has some good information. He seemed to be a very knowledgeable horse player. Jim