Go Back   Pace and Cap - Sartin Methodology & The Match Up > Selections
Google Site Search Get RDSS Sartin Library RDSS FAQs Conduct Register Site FAQ Members List Today's Posts

Selections Post Your Picks - 1 race or a card

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-02-2012, 12:25 PM   #1
pktruckdriver
Grade 1
 
pktruckdriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saratoga Springs
Posts: 1,547
Dec cycle

Here is a race not included in my contest cycle will be put here.

50 win 1 and 8 , hiding the 4 currently 2-1
Attached Images
 
pktruckdriver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 01:18 PM   #2
Bill V.
The egg man
 
Bill V.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Carlsbad, California
Posts: 10,005
Lone Early

Hi Patrick

Thank you for the screen shot of the race. I followed along. The favorite 4
won some points I saw

The race was for 9.0 furlongs !
and most of these horse have issues
Here are the enetries I have the 4 as a LONE EARLY
Name:  stay away.PNG
Views: 398
Size:  59.3 KB

Here is how I read the conditions
I only have lines for a few horses
But I did call the favorite as a lone Early
The 5 went wire to wire last race but it has never broke for the lead
before The 4 has shownmore consistant ability to break well and go
right to the lead
Who else in the race can out break the 4 and is in form ?

here are my notes
Conditions 3year old and up which have never won 3 races
Or 3year olds and up which have not won a race
since May 28
or Three year olds

Life time records
H1 3-9 Age 3 gets in with 3 wins last win aug 17
H2 14-57 Age 8 gets in with 14 wins but has not
won in 2012 Long layoff no form No line
H3 6 - 53 Age 6 Gets in with 6
wins but with no wins this year NF 20/1
H4 4-25 Age 5 gets in with 5 wins but has not won since March
Lone E No recent line
H5 2-10 Age 3 just won last race Line 1
H6 8-44 Age 6 Gets in with 8 wins but has no form or wins
since May 28
H7 2-18 Age 4 Gets in having never won 3 races
Line 1 Sus 1
H8 4-18 Age 5 Gets in with 4 wins has not won since Feb
long layoff


Name:  Break the 4.PNG
Views: 408
Size:  103.0 KB

Name:  Horse 5.PNG
Views: 407
Size:  110.2 KB
Bill V. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 02:39 PM   #3
pktruckdriver
Grade 1
 
pktruckdriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saratoga Springs
Posts: 1,547
Hey Bill

I kinda knew the 4 would be tough to beat, but last 2 he did get beat, so top 3 VDC I went for value here, and this time the 4 was strong enough to win. This happens, sometimes it happens where it occurs in streaks, and the objects is to be on the side of the streak where it does lose. Wierd , maybe, but it's the thinking here.

Best of capping this month.

Patrick
pktruckdriver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 02:49 PM   #4
Bill V.
The egg man
 
Bill V.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Carlsbad, California
Posts: 10,005
Thanks Patrick

Thanks for the open conversation on your posted race.
I appreciate the work you put into your selection

Good Skill
Bill
Bill V. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 03:02 PM   #5
pktruckdriver
Grade 1
 
pktruckdriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saratoga Springs
Posts: 1,547
Bill you are very welcome and even thou we seem to be like two older trucks passing in the night, each going 65mph's in opposite directions, both trying to reach the same place safely, The "Profit Zone" , and even thou we do things differently we reach the same place quite often, think alot of that has to do with RDSS and what it gives out when you go digging into a race.

For me the color makes seeing things better and for me RED is like your plus, (+) and no color is to me a , zero (0), yet we see this differently, while doing the same things. Thanks to Ted for the colorazation, is that a word ?

Gotta run more later

Always welcome Bill, I will do my best to answer

patrick
pktruckdriver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 03:14 PM   #6
For The Lead
Grade 1
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,292
Ambiguous Condition

Bill,

You read the condition, as it appears, correctly. However, I don't believe the condition, itself, is printed correctly. Here's why.

The purpose of a condition is to limit eligibility for entry into the race.
So let's look at the condition as it appears.

Condition ONE - "THREE YEAR OLDS AND UPWARD WHICH HAVE NEVER WON THREE RACES"
This is straight forward. Any three year old, or older, that has never won three races is eligible.

Condition TWO - "THREE YEAR OLDS"
IF "any" three year old can enter the race, then why is there a need to previously limit the race to "three year olds and upward which have never won three races"?

Condition THREE - "WHICH HAVE NOT WON A RACE SINCE MAY 28, 2012"
What does this mean?
Which horses are limited to not having won a race since May 28,2012??
Three year olds only???
Older horses only????

I believe there is one too many "OR's" in the condition.
I believe the condition was meant to read as follows:
"FOR THREE YEAR OLDS AND UPWARD WHICH HAVE NEVER WON THREE RACES OR THREE YEAR OLDS WHICH HAVE NOT WON A RACE SINCE MAY 28,2012"

THIS makes sense!!
Now the race is limited to three year olds and upward which have never won three races OR three year olds which have not won a race since May 28,2012.

Under the limits of the condition written in this way;
- any horse age 3 or older are limited to 2 prior wins.
OR
- 3 year olds ONLY can have more than 2 wins, but are limited to "zero" wins since since May 28, 2012.
Attached Images
 
__________________
"It's suppose to be hard. If it was easy, everybody would do it." Jimmy Dugan, A League of Their Own
For The Lead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 12:36 PM   #7
pktruckdriver
Grade 1
 
pktruckdriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saratoga Springs
Posts: 1,547
gp 1st 12/9

50 win 2 and 4 hiding the 11 horse

trusting the program has been tricky lately, as we all know my Pacelines are the best, no need to fix that issue, I am the best when picking lines, period !

may be tough filling this cycle , but will try, my other cycle started good, but has fallen quickly to mere muddle, oh well.
Attached Images
 
pktruckdriver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 12:52 PM   #8
pktruckdriver
Grade 1
 
pktruckdriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saratoga Springs
Posts: 1,547
gp 1st 12/9 RESULT

Upside down, nothing in the program giving the 5 the win
Attached Images
 
pktruckdriver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 01:03 PM   #9
pktruckdriver
Grade 1
 
pktruckdriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saratoga Springs
Posts: 1,547
Gp 2 12/9

70 win 5 and 30 win 6 hiding the 3 at 3-1 currently

if i say this it means there is doubt, right? Will the 1 come up and bite me, the m/l fav
Attached Images
 
pktruckdriver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 01:20 PM   #10
pktruckdriver
Grade 1
 
pktruckdriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saratoga Springs
Posts: 1,547
GP 2 12/9 results

GOLDSTAR and my 6 was 3rd, oh well
Attached Images
 
pktruckdriver is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Another 20 race cycle hansend General Discussion 16 07-16-2020 07:07 PM
Cycle 5 pktruckdriver Selections 10 11-21-2012 09:33 PM
Race Cycle 4 starts here pktruckdriver Selections 24 11-18-2012 03:25 PM
Friday Part II 20 race cycle pktruckdriver Selections 14 07-18-2010 09:46 AM
My twenty race cycle hansend General Discussion 15 06-08-2010 11:51 AM


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:39 AM.