$103.20

[RichieP]

Originally Posted by Rverge

richie p,
i posted monday after pha was done i had a good day. 5-9 @ pha.
now this race.....
did you ever make that shrimp scampi? don't forget the capers!

Nice hit!!!!!

I had a feeling some Mnr users had it paisan.

Far as dishes go I have been experimenting lately with baked chicken cooked with fresh asparagus, garlic and brown rice.

[RichieP]

Amazing.

I just post to Rverge and see I have a PM from one of the "Matchup guys".

Here is the PM:

 103.2 horse Match Up
Hi Richie

Projected Pace off #1's Line 7

22.9 - 47.1

Match Up and you should end up with #4 and #10

#2 slow - Out
#4 in
#5 slow/orrible - Out
#6 in
#7 in
#8 slow -Out
#10 In

2c

#6 and #7 are slower than #4 and #10

#6 and #7 OUT

Two horse bettor has race sorted, however

If #4 runs as Line 2 he has the positional advantage -forget #10



It's goodbye #10

One horse bettor is collecting

[Rverge]

Originally Posted by RichieP

Nice hit!!!!!

I had a feeling some Mnr users had it paisan.

Far as dishes go I have been experimenting lately with baked chicken cooked with fresh asparagus, garlic and brown rice.

forget the bird and use some nice fresh red snapper w/ orange-lemon/"juice glace" w/ some butter and shallots
use the bird w/ some figs and port wine.

[VoodooFan]

Originally Posted by Rverge

forget the bird and use some nice fresh red snapper w/ orange-lemon/"juice glace" w/ some butter and shallots
use the bird w/ some figs and port wine.

Please stop. You guys are making me hungry.

No, now I read it twice. NOW I'm starving!!!

Hope you guys are happy now.

Doggone chefs.

Everytime I listen to a chef on a cooking show on the radio, I sometimes have to turn it off, making me so darn hungry.

They must teach you guys marketing, describing in detail how its prepared and cooked with terms like : serve when piping hot, lemon zest, medium browning on one side, roasted, slightly fluff, all that doggone delicious food.

Once these terms get inside your head, that's ALL you can think about.

I'm convinced Madison Avenue marketers came up with these terms, hypnotizing people with these words and visuals.

I mean, come on, what does PIPING have to do with HOT, or FLUFF have to do with rice?....rice is either ready or its not.

Conspiracy.

Now, all I can think about is something sautee'ing in olive oil and butter, sizzling in medium heat in a cast iron skillet.

Why chefs aren't millionaires, I'll never know.

Talkin about all this darn good food. I'm getting my keys right now.

You guys are are killin me, man, real diet killers.

VoodooFan

[Lemon]

Using Entropy with Rac file sent from RDSS

First contender selection

I use a method Doc writes about using the Beyer number and the SR + TV
from the racing form

I modified it to use the best of the last three best Doc/Trackmaster
speed rating from the adjusted screen and the coresponding
net speed rating from trackmaster

I take the top 5 of these numbers
It looks something like this

  Doc                TM NET
1.   77  -  1                 87  -1 =  1.0
2.   75  -  3                 75  -3 =  3.0
3.
4.   76  -  2                 82  -2 =  2.0
5.   66  -  6                 48  -8  = 7.0
6.   77  -  1                 75 - 5  = 3.0
7,   68  -  5                 53 -7   = 6.0
8    70  -  4                 61 -6   = 5.0
10. 77  -  1                 81 -4  =  5.0

So my top 5 contender using Docs somewhat modified
speedrating system are the
1 2 4 6 an 10

I sent these lines
to Entropy

without going through all the screens
here is the final DVC sort screen
I take the best 4 -Lowest total line score
plus the # 1 EP/dv rated horse
and send these to EXDC/thoromation

I eliminate the worst total # 6
The total energy warning ask for the 2 adjust
Since I made these horses my final contenders from entropy
I say yes to the two adjust
The winner is clearly gettable in 3rd position
Docs guidelines for Entropy users and any client
when your # 3 horse is going off at big odds
bet it with a seperate bank roll

Thanks
Lemon
and the the SP screen on thoromation preplay
comes up first

[RichieP]

Originally Posted by Lemon

Using Entropy with Rac file sent from RDSS

First contender selection

I use a method Doc writes about using the Beyer number and the SR + TV
from the racing form

I modified it to use the best of the last three best Doc/Trackmaster
speed rating from the adjusted screen and the coresponding
net speed rating from trackmaster

I take the top 5 of these numbers
It looks something like this

  Doc                TM NET
1.   77  -  1                 87  -1 =  1.0
2.   75  -  3                 75  -3 =  3.0
3.
4.   76  -  2                 82  -2 =  2.0
5.   66  -  6                 48  -8  = 7.0
6.   77  -  1                 75 - 5  = 3.0
7,   68  -  5                 53 -7   = 6.0
8    70  -  4                 61 -6   = 5.0
10. 77  -  1                 81 -4  =  5.0

So my top 5 contender using Docs somewhat modified
speedrating system are the
1 2 4 6 an 10

I sent these lines
to Entropy

without going through all the screens
here is the final DVC sort screen
I take the best 4 -Lowest total line score
plus the # 1 EP/dv rated horse
and send these to EXDC/thoromation

I eliminate the worst total # 6
The total energy warning ask for the 2 adjust
Since I made these horses my final contenders from entropy
I say yes to the two adjust
The winner is clearly gettable in 3rd position
Docs guidelines for Entropy users and any client
when your # 3 horse is going off at big odds
bet it with a seperate bank roll

Thanks
Lemon
and the the SP screen on thoromation preplay
comes up first

Good morning
1) are you sending the races over adjusted or raw?
2) could you lay out your sr/cont method again?I got a bit confused (which isn't hard to do!)

Thanks
"The Lime"

[Lemon]

Hello Rich

First let me say I am doing so much better seeing the race match up
in the entropy figures since I have read all your work in the Hat check area
I doubt I ever will be handicapping without my computer
so I focus on what you teach and use it to my advantage while using
my program - Entropy

To answer your first question
Yes I send my lines RAW from RDSS when using Entropy
but I found it better to send Adjusted lines in other Sartin programs

The reason I prefer to use raw numbers is Entropy is a very strong
program to get races down to ideally 4 contenders
The various readouts are all measures of velocity and deceleration
relative to the dream race here is a little paragraph I really
like from the Chaos manual
(SEE SCREEN SHOT #1)

Entropy does not ask or warn of a need for a 2 adjust
rather the user gets the option to use the 1 2 or 3 adjust
I use raw numbers but then always use the 3 adjust
in using the 3 adjust The program gives you the adjustment
number it will give to each horse.
The slower the horse the bigger this number will be.
The fastest horse in the race more times than not will get a minus number
Seeing these numbers from the raw lines sent by RDSS
is truly helping me to keep in fast horses that run fast
well . Which leads me to your next question

I use a modified method of a way Doc Sartin suggested to clients
during the entropy phase of the methodology
This method was (at first) -to take the top 2 Beyer numbers from the
DRF in the last 3 or 4 if needed pacelines then also take the top 2
DRF speed ratings and TV added together and devided
The top 5 horses were the contenders , Doc later changed it
to taking the best DRF+TV and the same lines Beyer number
and averaging the rank of the two numbers
again taking the top 5 to entropy or what ever program

I saw the benift of this method in my use of the RDSS adjusted
Speed Rating taking the best speed rating of the last 3 races has worked well for me But I wanted to see if the horse was fast or was he adjusted fast
So since the only past performance lines I see are from RDSS
I figured the Adjusted Speed figures would be like the beyer numbers
and the Net Trackmaster lines + or Minus TV would be like the
old DRF + TV speed ratings
I take the best what I call DOC numbers maybe I sould call them
Sartin Nuumbers and rank the highest # 1 then down to the lowest
I do the same with the Trackmaster net speed rating and rank them
Now here is were I see adjusted slow horses because the the
two rankings very often do not match for example a horse might
have a 77 Sartin speed rating and be # 1 but the Trackmaster net
speed rating is 59 and its ranked 5th this to me is a slow horse adjusted to be fast

anyway the best thing might be to give you a example
This is from todays first race at AQU inner
I have highlighted in blue the lines I used for the first few horse from race 1

look at each horses paceline I have used shaded in blue
first lets list the Sartin speed ratings
horse 1 84
horse 1a 77
horse 2 80
horse 4 78

horse 1 is the highest speed rating so its rated 1
horse 1a is the lowest so its rated 4th
horse 2 is next highest so its rated 2nd
horse 4 is 3rd

I do the samething for the Trackmaster net speed ratings
horse 1 86 third
horse 1a 87 second
horse 2 90 first
horse 4 80 4th

Now I add the rankings for each horses 2 types of speed ratings together
and average the total it makes for a closer easy to see listing
but I guess the total works to

Example

Horse 1 84 1 + 86 1 = 1 + 3 = 4/2 = 2.0
Horse 1a 77 4 + 87 2 = 4 + 2 = 6/2 = 3.0
Horse 2 80 2 + 90 1 = 2 + 1 = 3/2 =1.5
Horse 4 78 3 + 80 3 = 3 + 4 = 7/2 =3.5

Now this is a small sample when you do the whole field
the slow horses become very clear and the numbers
spead out. I take the 5 lowest total horses and send the raw lines to entropy

Hope thats clear

Lemon

[RichieP]

Wow!!
Now that is an explanation senor "Limon"
Thank you so much