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Old 07-01-2018, 05:53 PM   #21
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nice presentation Billv and are you going to dmr this year? let me know. i dont want to write rverge was here. lol
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Good job getting down to two possibilities. Interesting that you ended up with a splitxcta or as I call it "the Bradshaw exacta"
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Old 07-02-2018, 02:46 PM   #23
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Hi Chef

Yes I will be going to the live races with Brooks (dad)

I have never been there during the week except for Friday evenings and opening day.
I bet it will be beautiful as always

Last time I was there was the Breeders Cup, Ted had quite a job getting
Dr. Bill Z. and me out of there.

He was a real trooper

Charlie Dad says hello, He wishes he could come to Saratoga and say hello, He has to be back in Jersey in early August. It would be too hard for him to make two coast to coast trips

We went in partners in the race, and we boxed the 12 10 and 5
so we caught the Exacta,

Can't wait for Saratoga, It is gonna be a hoot here at P-C for Del-Toga
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Old 07-02-2018, 05:14 PM   #24
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Hello again Bill
Hope you are still on the road to recovery! LOVED the video and the workups!
PLEASE DO MORE!!!
I have one question: When you said the 10 horse was 19 lengths behind,where did you calculate that from??
Thanks again
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Old 07-03-2018, 07:28 AM   #25
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Hello

Actually, I made a mistake, it was 21 points - lengths


Your question can best be answered if I refer to the old "Sartin Downs"
adjustment examples.

Almost every readout on RDSS is adjusted to a mystical normalized and equalized common racetrack, Originally named "Sartin Downs"

This means when you see horses ratings in RDSS that are adjusted, The numbers are not from Parx or Belmont or Santa Anita or Blue Ribbon Downs,
All lines are adjusted to a common track and then to a common distance

In this example, Horse 5's last race was run at Belmont at 7 furlongs
on the turf. What we see is horse 5's adjustment to a "par" for
7-furlong turf sprints at "Sartin Downs"

She earns an adjusted 184 TPR

Horse 10 last ran at Belmont, also on the turf, however, that was at 8.5 furlongs, on a track listed as good. The DTV was 23 (slow)

Now she has to be adjusted as if she ran a 7-furlong turf sprint
on an equalized, normalized track and surface - Sartin Downs

She gets only a 163 TPR and an even slower 161 from line 2.

So my question becomes is she really that much slower than horse 5
that is 21 points of TPR than the 5 horse?

I suspect no I base this on her 179 that she earned as a 2-year-old the last time she turf sprinted. (line 3 )

I placed her as an In The Money Only contender because I had no recent plus pacelines at a comparable distance. Yet I felt she just got a bad adjustment going route to sprint

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Hi Chef

Yes I will be going to the live races with Brooks (dad)

I have never been there during the week except for Friday evenings and opening day.
I bet it will be beautiful as always

Last time I was there was the Breeders Cup, Ted had quite a job getting
Dr. Bill Z. and me out of there.

He was a real trooper

Charlie Dad says hello, He wishes he could come to Saratoga and say hello, He has to be back in Jersey in early August. It would be too hard for him to make two coast to coast trips

We went in partners in the race, and we boxed the 12 10 and 5
so we caught the Exacta,

Can't wait for Saratoga, It is gonna be a hoot here at P-C for Del-Toga
ok cool, may b plan a sat or sun. thanks
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Old 07-03-2018, 03:43 PM   #27
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nice presentation Billv and are you going to dmr this year? let me know. i dont want to write rverge was here. lol
Hello Chef

Yes I will be going to Del mar often
Especially the weekends

I'm used to going every weekend and sitting in the early bird simulcast room
but now I can't make the long walk. They have shuttles and handicap parking near the entrances but they open too late, cause they are for the live racing crowd.
The simulcast room fills up by then.
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