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08-02-2010, 02:50 PM | #11 | |
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Primary "INTUITION" got #6 Kim's Gold, not math, jockeys, a paceline, variants, rails in or out, trainer stats, sire ratings, tote action, leg wraps, blinkers, dosage, you name it..., Lets Get-The-Horse, "First"...., "EARLY" or "OTHER-THAN-EARLY" VoodooFan |
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08-02-2010, 09:06 PM | #12 | |||||||
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Positions, Beaten Lengths & Match Up lengths
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#6- http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...7&postcount=11 VoodooFan Last edited by VoodooFan; 08-02-2010 at 09:13 PM. |
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08-02-2010, 09:42 PM | #13 | |||||||
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08-02-2010, 11:48 PM | #14 |
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Let's start with NEED-TO-LEAD horse:
Seen this a few times. A NEED-TO-LEAD horse whether he is GOOD or BAD, B-U-T, has NO fractional or positional challengers or equals at the 1st call...., ........ there are NO positions to count, because he DOMINATES , EXCLUSIVELY, that 1st call...., .............. and there are NO 2nd/3rd position horses with equal or faster pace of race at 1st call and 2nd call....., .........and there are NO FASTEST PACE LAST RACE Early or O-T-E..., .........and there are NO 4th and further who has powermoves, powerline, faster pace of race fractions because they are simply TOO FAR BACK...., ........an "ugly" NEED-TO-LEAD horse that is deteriorating can still win the race, especially when he normally holds the lead until the stretch before he coughs up a liver. ********* Remember this horse? ********* http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...3&postcount=19 Compared to the "others" there ARE no OTHER POSITIONS to count, although he is a pretty "ugly", deteriorating Early, knee-jerk is to throw him out and look for OTHER-THAN-EARLY....., there is NONE, position-wise or otherwise. Look at that = Minds Eye = on this Early horse, 3rd line. Looking for n-i-i-i-i-c-c-c-e looking, pretty, formful pace lines or do we DO what is instructed : Back to the basics, man..., be honest, we forget and usually throw him out, if not, you're keeping true and retaining the basics. I did not because I keep forgetting. Looks like I have to do like some holy men in isolated Temples and repeat and chant over and over and over again for hours and days or weeks until its "1st-sight"/ "2nd nature"......., ......or sound like Rain Man, repeating over and over, like Turrets syndrome.., VoodooFan |
08-03-2010, 01:25 AM | #15 |
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Bears repeating. Let's put our Stetsons on and get to that "HAT" zone, its a nice place to be. |
08-03-2010, 06:17 PM | #16 |
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Hi guys
This forum was asked to be created by Charlie D and others to keep a line open for those who like to "match" horses. From the posts in this forum by folks it is apparent that there are MANY different forms/methods/procedures to accomplish this "matching". It is as it should be in my opine and it's all good! The "Hat Check" forum is the way that Jim taught ME and he was first to admit that he taught his students differently after speaking with them to determine their strengths/weaknesses. THAT way is the focus of that forum and those that are interested can study there at their convenience. THIS forum has taken on the life of something kinda nice (I.M.H.O) in that there is a broad scope of different ideas etc all leading to the end result - WHO IS THE BET (S) I like the fact that virtually all the time a winner is had that the winning capper has taken the time (both before and after) the race runs to give a bit of EXPLANATION as to the thought and decision making process. This goes for those using software as a tool and raw by the pps only stuff. It is ALL GOOD man BTW feel free to post up races when you see one that you like. Just get the full pps up with screenshots (or links to the race pps) for ALL to be able to see, access and work (whether they post or not your time taken to do this helps EVERYONE and Jim would like that VERY much!) Good matching!
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08-05-2010, 12:30 AM | #17 |
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hi guys
thread voodoofan.
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It is probably so simple, that one may ask why even bring it up. But I believe it is that that separates the professional and consistant winners from others. It is something most talented handicappers do, but have yet to CLEARLY and SOLELY explain it as a concept within and by itself. You'll here them mention it in their analysis and explanation here and there, but it is usually accompanied with some OTHER handicapping principal in such that the "other" principle, rule or factor completely OVERSHADOWS its subtle, yet simple and powerful guideline. I believe if one can train ones self with either conscious drills or as a method/guideline in and of itself, that one can develop that elusive CONSISTENCY of winning , day in, day out, it can manifest....., that it can take one from where one is to levels that may have never been achieved or imagined, or at least, get one out of the hole of stagnation in improving and getting better, faster. An example: Horse A: Ten running lines, 4 of them on the lead at the 1st call. Horse B: Ten running lines, only 1 of them on the lead at the 1st call. Horse C. Ten running lines, only 1 of them 2nd by 2 lengths at the 1st call and only 1 of them 2nd by a head at the 1st call. 9 out of 10 times, Horse A: will get the lead. 9 out of 10 times, Horse B: will be nowhere near the lead, let alone battle for it or get. 9 out of 10 times, Horse C. will not be 2nd, and even much far less likely to battle the lead horse. A horse that shows 1's, 2's and 3's in 9 past performance lines , and only shows (1) from 5th..., the chance of this horse running 5th today if the race calls for a horse from this position is remote, not impossible, but remote. I don't know of a drill to get the habit of this, let the "HAT" quotes be your guide. Quote:
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VoodooFan p.s. maybe a drill similar to this one for all style horses, not just Early. Last edited by VoodooFan; 08-05-2010 at 01:36 PM. |
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Jim "THE HAT" Bradshaw himself : http://www.sartinmethodology.com/lib...191Tape9_2.mp3 VoodooFan |
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08-05-2010, 03:19 PM | #20 |
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Those tapes certainly refresh what we have to do to matchup our winners.
Thanks for the refresher where to start as I have them in my Library from the past and can now refresh my memory a little as this seems to help alot Thanks Dlivery
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