Tampa Tuesday - Pace and Cap

Chip Napolitano · 01-31-2006, 09:42 AM

Race 1 - # 3 ( 5/1 ml)

Race 2 - # 2 ( 3/1 ml)

Race 3 - Pass

Race 4 - ex box 10-8-3 win bets on # 10 ( 10/1ml) and # 8 ( 15/1 ml)

Race 5 - Pass

Race 6 - # 7 ( 3/1 ml) and # 1( 10/1 ml)

Race 7 - # 5 ( 7/2 ml)

CN

cprescigno · 01-31-2006, 11:21 PM

Looks like it was a pretty tough day at Tampa Bay today Chip. I took a look at that 7th race. Not sure how anyone comes up with the 2 to win it. The 1 horse beat him their last out with the 2 coming in 5th. Then the 2 runs one turf race before this one and finishes 5th. Today he comes back and beats the 1 horse. And unless you give the 7 his best line ever coming off the layoff you can't get him in the mix.
This was one tough race. I'm looking at some of the others now to get an idea of how the track was.

Tough one,
Charlie

tompkins · 02-01-2006, 02:13 AM

The winner #9 had the only useable dirt route lines...a STANDOUT from different tracks and was a recent claim

tompkins · 02-01-2006, 02:29 AM

when a shorter sprint has a narrow range of total energy, it is wise to look at the e/l screen for long shots as the screen shot shows the top two e/ls ran first and second.

Chip Napolitano · 02-01-2006, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cprescigno

Looks like it was a pretty tough day at Tampa Bay today Chip. I took a look at that 7th race. Not sure how anyone comes up with the 2 to win it. The 1 horse beat him their last out with the 2 coming in 5th. Then the 2 runs one turf race before this one and finishes 5th. Today he comes back and beats the 1 horse. And unless you give the 7 his best line ever coming off the layoff you can't get him in the mix.
This was one tough race. I'm looking at some of the others now to get an idea of how the track was.

Tough one,
Charlie

Got my tail kicked pretty good Charlie in these races. Dont wanna talk about rest of card as I didnt post em.
CN

Binder · 02-01-2006, 07:02 PM

Mr Tompkins

Can you please fill in some of the blanks
or send me a decoder ring to make sence
of your race 7 post
I see in the random lines you posted a wide range of Total Energy from a low of 162 to a high of 167 What exactly are you talking about narrow range

Here is a clear screen shot
maybe you can be bit more curtious and perhaps tell us what you mean ? Top 2 on the Late/Early who would that be ?
Maybe point out that there were no scratches in the race, yet I don't see lines for a few horse who
I myself would have used. This looks like a cheap Redboard
Hey I can say I had a $29.00 horse in a race Chip lost con Job

The ball is in your court

cprescigno · 02-01-2006, 07:40 PM

Here is the Late/Early screen from that 7th race at Tampa Bay.
I still think picking the 2 to win was a tough one since the 1 beat him a month earlier. And I coudn't even get the 7 horse (Show) on the scope.
Wagercapping may have gotten a win bet on the 2 horse at ML 15/1. He did pay a nice price but just like thie E/L Sceen most of the readings were strong on the 6 horse and then the 1. I think I did a win/win on the 6/1 or maybe just the 1 with the odds on the 6 horse being low and boxed an exacta. 6-1 with a Tri 6-1-2. Whatever the case I missed this one. Maybe I'll make a comeback at Evangeline tonight.

Charlie

Binder · 02-01-2006, 07:50 PM

The winner # 2 paid $29
not on my Val 3 screen
Its a quick hide at 7 Total Energy and 6 Primary line score

tompkins · 02-01-2006, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cprescigno

I still think picking the 2 to win was a tough one since the 1 beat him a month earlier.

in a word you have forgotten the TANDEM scenario: one is improving the other might not have been

tompkins · 02-01-2006, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Binder

Mr Tompkins

Can you please fill in some of the blanks

BOTTOM LINE: no two people look at a race the same way. that screen showed the way I looked at it. PERIOD. The potential speed horse, the 5, was a easy toss after a huge class drop and a S.N.A.I.L. (pizzola's term) Shown Nothing After It's Layoff. Without that influence the other two speed horses had a much better shot.

Included is a screen shot of the PA filter by second call....I rarely, if ever look at Bl/BL or much other than screen 1, 5 and the e/l in spec..."Thin slicing" as I learned from the book BLINK by Malcolm Gladwell.

01-31-2006, 09:42 AM	#1
Chip Napolitano Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 108	Tampa Tuesday Race 1 - # 3 ( 5/1 ml) Race 2 - # 2 ( 3/1 ml) Race 3 - Pass Race 4 - ex box 10-8-3 win bets on # 10 ( 10/1ml) and # 8 ( 15/1 ml) Race 5 - Pass Race 6 - # 7 ( 3/1 ml) and # 1( 10/1 ml) Race 7 - # 5 ( 7/2 ml) CN

02-01-2006, 02:13 AM	#3
tompkins Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 708	5th off the turf The winner #9 had the only useable dirt route lines...a STANDOUT from different tracks and was a recent claim Attached Images __________________ velocititian Last edited by tompkins; 02-01-2006 at 03:06 AM.

02-01-2006, 02:29 AM	#4
tompkins Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 708	7th had order within it as well when a shorter sprint has a narrow range of total energy, it is wise to look at the e/l screen for long shots as the screen shot shows the top two e/ls ran first and second. Attached Images __________________ velocititian

02-01-2006, 07:02 PM	#6
Binder Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 674	Trouble Mr Tompkins Can you please fill in some of the blanks or send me a decoder ring to make sence of your race 7 post I see in the random lines you posted a wide range of Total Energy from a low of 162 to a high of 167 What exactly are you talking about narrow range Here is a clear screen shot maybe you can be bit more curtious and perhaps tell us what you mean ? Top 2 on the Late/Early who would that be ? Maybe point out that there were no scratches in the race, yet I don't see lines for a few horse who I myself would have used. This looks like a cheap Redboard Hey I can say I had a $29.00 horse in a race Chip lost con Job The ball is in your court Attached Images Last edited by Binder; 02-01-2006 at 07:06 PM.

02-01-2006, 07:40 PM	#7
cprescigno Spec Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 258	Here is the Late/Early screen from that 7th race at Tampa Bay. I still think picking the 2 to win was a tough one since the 1 beat him a month earlier. And I coudn't even get the 7 horse (Show) on the scope. Wagercapping may have gotten a win bet on the 2 horse at ML 15/1. He did pay a nice price but just like thie E/L Sceen most of the readings were strong on the 6 horse and then the 1. I think I did a win/win on the 6/1 or maybe just the 1 with the odds on the 6 horse being low and boxed an exacta. 6-1 with a Tri 6-1-2. Whatever the case I missed this one. Maybe I'll make a comeback at Evangeline tonight. Charlie Attached Images

01-31-2006, 11:21 PM	#2
cprescigno Spec Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 258	Looks like it was a pretty tough day at Tampa Bay today Chip. I took a look at that 7th race. Not sure how anyone comes up with the 2 to win it. The 1 horse beat him their last out with the 2 coming in 5th. Then the 2 runs one turf race before this one and finishes 5th. Today he comes back and beats the 1 horse. And unless you give the 7 his best line ever coming off the layoff you can't get him in the mix. This was one tough race. I'm looking at some of the others now to get an idea of how the track was. Tough one, Charlie

02-01-2006, 07:50 PM	#8
Binder Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 674	No winner here The winner # 2 paid $29 not on my Val 3 screen Its a quick hide at 7 Total Energy and 6 Primary line score Attached Images