Go Back   Pace and Cap - Sartin Methodology & The Match Up > Pace Makes the Race / TPR
Mark Forums Read
Google Site Search Get RDSS Sartin Library RDSS FAQs Conduct Register Site FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts

Pace Makes the Race / TPR Discussion, Examples, Lessons from Total Pace Ratings (TPR) aka 'Phase I' from the book 'Pace Makes the Race'

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-23-2016, 04:55 PM   #1
Bill V.
The egg man
 
Bill V.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Carlsbad, California
Posts: 10,005
Top 5 TPR contenders

This is for a nice man by request

"Bill can you do a step by step on how you get your top 5 contenders using Phase 1 RDSS2.1"

Sure thing ,

I just picked a race at random. I am getting ready for opening day at Santa Anita.
This race was the race I was looking at for my database entries

I did this race as I made the screens so I had no idea of the winner.
It really does not mtter for this demo, as I, just showing how i get my to 5
contenders


The race was a 6.5 down the hill state bred stakes race

Here goes
Bill V. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2016, 04:59 PM   #2
Bill V.
The egg man
 
Bill V.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Carlsbad, California
Posts: 10,005
steps

Steps First Entries, ML and running styles

Name:  Dash.JPG
Views: 959
Size:  155.9 KB

Next LAST line info

Name:  step2.JPG
Views: 927
Size:  140.0 KB

Next Top 5 TPR and Fulcrum

Name:  Step3.JPG
Views: 936
Size:  133.3 KB

Select Pace lines

Name:  Step 4.JPG
Views: 930
Size:  133.6 KB
Bill V. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2016, 05:02 PM   #3
Bill V.
The egg man
 
Bill V.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Carlsbad, California
Posts: 10,005
steps

TPR after selecting lines

Name:  Step 5.JPG
Views: 904
Size:  121.1 KB

Name:  Step 7.JPG
Views: 949
Size:  111.8 KB

Name:  Winner.JPG
Views: 924
Size:  213.0 KB
Bill V. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2016, 05:57 PM   #4
shoeless
Grade 1
 
shoeless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,149
Bill,

Nice job in the explanation

I noticed the winner was ridden by
ex Parx favorite Stewart Elliott who
seems to be doing good on the California circuit


Jeff
shoeless is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2016, 07:50 PM   #5
Bill V.
The egg man
 
Bill V.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Carlsbad, California
Posts: 10,005
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoeless View Post
Bill,

Nice job in the explanation

I noticed the winner was ridden by
ex Parx favorite Stewart Elliott who
seems to be doing good on the California circuit


Jeff

Hey Jeff

Yes Stewart Elliot

He does well.
Mostly seems to be Mike Puype's go to guy.
The winner # 6 was his only down the hill victory.

Here is Stewarts record from SA and Del Mar 2016

Name:  Elliot Puype.JPG
Views: 853
Size:  166.0 KB
Bill V. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2016, 11:00 PM   #6
shoeless
Grade 1
 
shoeless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,149
Bill,

Thanks noticed he rides for Baffert sometimes


Jeff
shoeless is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2016, 12:32 PM   #7
Bill V.
The egg man
 
Bill V.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Carlsbad, California
Posts: 10,005
Jockey switch

hey Jeff

I know this is not a methodology issue, but I enjoy keeping track of the human element.
Who rides for what trainer,

I also play mostly pick 4's so I'm looking to know which trainers are better than others with maidens ..

Anyway, yesterdays Race 6 at Santa Anita a State bred MSW
Mike Puype went with top jockey F. Prat and did not use Elliott, who has
not done anything with the horse.

S. Elliot instead rode for Bonde
Elliot / Bonde teamed up for for a ST100 state bred win
and Elliott has rode the # 2 Jet Set before

The thing is look what Prat was able to do with Puypes 8 horse
10/1 ML wins and pays 21.80 just about wire to wire

Elliott had a tough time wit Jet sky #2

Name:  race 6 elliott.JPG
Views: 715
Size:  155.4 KB

Name:  Prat8.JPG
Views: 700
Size:  138.2 KB

Name:  Elliott Jet ski.JPG
Views: 713
Size:  149.0 KB
Bill V. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2016, 05:56 PM   #8
shoeless
Grade 1
 
shoeless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,149
Bill,

Also of note was not only going to a top jock but the turf to dirt move
that the trainer did

Again like you mentioned not part of the methodology but always something
to look for
shoeless is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Picking Contenders & Pacelines For The Lead Sartin Methodology Handicapping 101 (102 ...) 159 07-08-2014 06:42 PM
Contenders Latekick General Discussion 45 08-01-2013 09:46 PM
Another cycle with last 3 contenders pktruckdriver Selections 10 11-25-2012 08:48 PM
Prime contenders royal RDSS2 / FAQ's 6 08-03-2012 05:03 PM
Re-projection from true contenders VoodooFan Matchup Discussion 1 06-13-2009 05:28 AM


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:45 AM.