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01-20-2013, 11:23 AM | #1 |
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Rmath's contender elimination using CSR rankings
Rmath.....
I was rereading your comments about narrowing the true contenders in a race by using the CSR rankings in RDSS 2.0... I think that your initial research holds a lot of promise and potentials. I was curious about some update info on your research. You wrote: PHP Code:
Some thoughts ......(jmho) Sprint races might require different evaluations than route races...I prefer using Entropy but now it is V/dc...... Turf races.... Somehow, mile races in turf races required different energy exertions than other distances as we know that the energy distributions in turf races are tilted towards sustained fractions versus the energy distributions in dirt races...this remains a work in progress... I started using Doc's Entropy program first to weed out the one move late horses.....then evolved ( ) to use other factors in updated Sartin programs..... Looking forward to your updated research on CSR rankings.....but I have some initial hesitations as horses, who are coming off extended layoffs and whose last paceline was an obvious race tightener, may not fare well in Csr rankings as it gives more weight to the last race's speed rating.... The second place horse contender is usually the counter energy horse that Sartin mentioned a zillionth times.....its energy total or distribution might be lower in energy total or speed rating rankings compared with the true matchup contenders...This Dph (designated place horse) or the top hidden energy horse is key to isolating a race's matchup....... Good skills |
01-20-2013, 12:55 PM | #2 | |
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I believe Ted Craven has a post that explains more eloquently what I was referring to.....
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01-23-2013, 09:21 PM | #3 |
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Lone Speed
Lone Speed, in answer to your questions.
My research is and never will be the only answer to finding the true contenders in every race. But it has shown me how to get 90% of the WINNERS in the races that I play, from the top 4 VDC or top 4 CSR. While some of the winners will always be eliminated because of a last race tightener on CSR ratings by using the best of last 3 comparable for the VDC most are covered. As I stated earlier I was only trying to find the winner and was not trying to get the place horse (the counter energy horse in most races) in my final contenders. The place horse is in the win contenders a high percentage of the time. My only goal was to get the highest percentage of WINNERS from the lowest number of horses in each race. Layoff horses, Turf races and maiden races with first timers, or with fewer than 3 North american running lines are harder to predict. As I stated earlier I tried to limit my plays to races with at least 8 official starters.I also try to only play races that are at least 5.5 f upto 8.5 furlongs in distance. Races within these guidelines are the most frequently run at most North American race tracks. Like Jimmy Bradshaw use to point out, winners usually fit into a specific set of guidelines, but the place horse would not always fit the same guidelines. I hope this answers your questions. If not please feel free to ask again. I will try my best to answer any and all questions regarding my research. Yours, rmath |
01-26-2013, 03:09 PM | #4 |
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Can someone point me to a thread or threads where this (CSR) ranking is discussed. I think there was a nice race with it as #1 ranking at Prx this afternoon. (#5). I bet EPR # 1 and 2 in 5 and 5.5 furlong races, but I noticed CSR is # 1 (10/1) also.
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01-26-2013, 03:25 PM | #5 |
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01-26-2013, 04:45 PM | #6 |
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Thanks
I see now. I will add it to my research lines. Looks like it could be very helpful.
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08-28-2022, 12:57 AM | #7 |
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Here it is
Ted here please Help
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08-28-2022, 03:00 AM | #8 |
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Ok, got it. Let me see what this old thread and links are all about and I'll get back soon.
Meanwhile, why not just CLICK on that link above to READ what it says ... Ted
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