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[1retired]

Kahunab, Dick

Somehow my private messages aren't working. I tried to send you a private message but'it's not going thru. I' glad you agree to mentor me. I can't start until after Christmas, as I said before, because of money issues nand also I have an old Apple computer on its very last legs. Also, I don't think it accepts RDSS unless I make some upgrades to my computer. If I knew that it did without ungrades or additional costws, I'd subscribe now.

I was wondering if you had been surfing all the daily track races looking for a high number of Quirin Sppeed Point entries indicating that the race would possibly be won by OTE horses. For sure, you would have an advantage there.



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Dave

[ranchwest]

Originally Posted by 1retired

Kahunab, Dick

Somehow my private messages aren't working. I tried to send you a private message but'it's not going thru. I' glad you agree to mentor me. I can't start until after Christmas, as I said before, because of money issues nand also I have an old Apple computer on its very last legs. Also, I don't think it accepts RDSS unless I make some upgrades to my computer. If I knew that it did without ungrades or additional costws, I'd subscribe now.

I was wondering if you had been surfing all the daily track races looking for a high number of Quirin Sppeed Point entries indicating that the race would possibly be won by OTE horses. For sure, you would have an advantage there.



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Dave

I suspect that once you get RDSS you'll find better ways to find OTE horses than Quirin Speed Points.

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Ranchwest

I honestly think that this is a highly effectively way to find races in which OTE horses can win, and, most importantly, at high odds. lg

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[ranchwest]

Originally Posted by 1retired

Ranchwest

I honestly think that this is a highly effectively way to find races in which OTE horses can win, and, most importantly, at high odds. lg

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I believe Quirin Speed Points are not nearly as effective as EPS or %Med or TE or deceleration. I'll leave you to evaluate that on your own.

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Ranchwest

I want to again thank you for responding to my request about providing me with races to confirm or negate my adaption of Lueylump's E/L Difference idea into a spot play angle. The data from your race helped me to better understand what makes this angle work or not work.

I got the Quirin Speed Point idea from a user of this site who has corresponded about this idea with Ted. Ted speaks well of this guy. I respect his opinion. You may be correct that this angle does not work very well. On the other hand, you may not and this may turn out to be a good angle. I am going to find out. This guy has posted several races on this website with examples of this idea.

I agree at this time to disagree with you.

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[ranchwest]

Originally Posted by 1retired

Ranchwest

I want to again thank you for responding to my request about providing me with races to confirm or negate my adaption of Lueylump's E/L Difference idea into a spot play angle. The data from your race helped me to better understand what makes this angle work or not work.

I got the Quirin Speed Point idea from a user of this site who has corresponded about this idea with Ted. Ted speaks well of this guy. I respect his opinion. You may be correct that this angle does not work very well. On the other hand, you may not and this may turn out to be a good angle. I am going to find out. This guy has posted several races on this website with examples of this idea.

I agree at this time to disagree with you.

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Always your option.

I have available to me 8 different pace views (including Quirin Speed Points) and that is before looking at Sartin factors, which I think are more important.

[Tim Y]

Originally Posted by ranchwest

i believe quirin speed points are not nearly as effective as eps or %med or te or deceleration. I'll leave you to evaluate that on your own.

agree

[Tim Y]

ALL the teachers say the same things: THERE ARE NO RULES just what works for you...There may be SOMEONE SOMEWHERE that knows how to at least break even and Hawthorne but I have just never met them.

Like roads up a mountain top: some are very difficult but quick,
others are easier but slow. YOUR record keeping will tell you which to take, where and when (my play is wholly different in the Winter).

I do not use the same approach at all tracks: my records review told me that

[Mitch44]

Bradshaw had to adjust for distances from horses and he could only do that knowing the conditions of the race he was handicapping. Not knowing the conditions, well pure BS.

Sartin was the one that stated about 3 races for a horse, not Bradshaw and if he did say it he got it from Sartin. Actually that saying may have been in the old Yellow Manual.

"Bradshaw is NOT truly a handicapper at all.." Deciphering any race to obtain a winner is called Handicapping. I don't pay attentions to Post Positions either along with many other things. In his discipline he learned what was really important verses what the masses believe to be important.

Mitch44

[Tim Y]

I took ALL that advice under the well know, repeatedly established mantra KISS, rather than try and DISPROVE (without little or no evidence) one of the founders opinions of how things could be done. His point of view and the well established points that Malcom Gladwell made in his best selling book BLINK, sold me on the idea that decisions can be made with LESS rather than MORE input, INTRINSICALY.

Horses run that's it. Not how fast they run but how they run fast. ONLY THEM not any humans