Go Back   Pace and Cap - Sartin Methodology & The Match Up > General Discussion
Google Site Search Get RDSS Sartin Library RDSS FAQs Conduct Register Site FAQ Members List Today's Posts

General Discussion General Horse Racing Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-08-2010, 09:49 PM   #1
Ted Craven
Grade 1
 
Ted Craven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 8,854
Rachel Alexandra Returns

Here's hoping for another season of courageous racing by a filly who has raised the level of interest in our sport like no other in years. Safe trips, and strong competition!

Name:  rachel.gif
Views: 455
Size:  29.4 KB

Today's workout:



Ted
__________________

R
DSS -
Racing Decision Support System™
Ted Craven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2010, 06:43 AM   #2
barb craven
Grade 1
 
barb craven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bobcaygeon,On,Canada
Posts: 1,308
That's my girl!
__________________
Listen...Learn...Stay Safe.
barb craven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2010, 11:00 AM   #3
Ted Craven
Grade 1
 
Ted Craven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 8,854
...
Name:  fg0313-8.gif
Views: 391
Size:  89.7 KB
__________________

R
DSS -
Racing Decision Support System™
Ted Craven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2010, 11:40 AM   #4
raceman5
Grade 1
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Largo Fl.
Posts: 2,295
line

hi ted,

just curious as to why u used a sy line for Rachael?

Bob
raceman5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2010, 03:10 PM   #5
Ted Craven
Grade 1
 
Ted Craven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 8,854
Bob,

It was pretty much an automated approach for each horse: best of the last 3 Total Energy/Perceptor Total for each horse. Rachel's 2nd line was not abnormally fast or slow DTV so the fact of sloppy seemed inconsequential.

If you use the last line, that BL/BL ranks her 2nd by a bit (thus inconsequential re wager decision); if you use the 3rd line, she's tops by a bit again (but that fast 17 DTV means you're accepting a bit DTV adjustment slower; all things being possible, neutral DTVs make me feel more comfortable: e.g. -6 ... +6 or so)

Using pretty much any of her lines with Total Energy in the range of 165-ish is going to put her on top or tied with Zardana, which still is not enough in my mind to prefer Zardana to win. Maybe 2 chances to cash on Place (for Zardana...).

Anyway, that's my reasoning. Not sure if this is a betting race, though!

Ted
__________________

R
DSS -
Racing Decision Support System™

Last edited by Ted Craven; 03-12-2010 at 03:12 PM.
Ted Craven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2010, 06:42 PM   #6
Ted Craven
Grade 1
 
Ted Craven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 8,854
An upset

Name:  fg0313-8res.gif
Views: 329
Size:  4.1 KB

__________________

R
DSS -
Racing Decision Support System™
Ted Craven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2010, 07:03 PM   #7
Charlie D
Match Up Apprentice
 
Charlie D's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 2,105
Looks like RDSS BL/BL had it spot on

Rachel - underlay - Zardana THE bet
__________________
"To me, The Match Up supercedes everything"
Charlie D is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2010, 11:59 PM   #8
chris
Grade 1
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Richfield, MN
Posts: 182
Upset?

Only in a handicapping sense, not so as a parimutual event. If Rachael was to be defeated, then this was the race. And only one horse in this field has credentials to do it. That is assuming one decides to bet the race.

Reinforcing my decision was the "trainer" talk that preceeded the race, in this case her trainer lamenting the fact that they had missed some training due to all the rain in New Orleans this winter, that coupled with their earlier indecision about running in the Apple Blossom Stakes raised some interesting questions for me. And remember it was their choice not to participate in last years Breeders Cup, again accompanied with a plausable rationale. That was a remarkeable record Rachael compiled last year, but I believe it came at a price.

This may be the time to bet against her; don't mortgage the homestead but do bet a few dollars.

COMPLETED: 69190360368767 FG #10 $1 Trifecta 3,​WT,2,​WT,1,4,5 $ 3.00 $ 71.40 + $ 68.40

Three dollars will get you $68.40 is O.K.

Regards,

Chris
chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rachel Alexandra in the Preakness? Vinnie Selections 4 05-13-2009 10:21 AM
Trying to Beat Rachel Alexandra Bill Lyster Matchup Discussion 2 04-29-2009 04:30 PM


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:10 PM.