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12-31-2011, 10:03 AM | #11 |
The egg man
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Happy New Year Rich
Here Is my work up
Lines 1H Line 2 2H Line 4 3H No Line 4H Line 1 5H No Line 6H Line 1 7H Line 1 8H Line 1 9H No line 10H Line 1 11H Line 1 I will enter these into KGEN I have 4 Early Horses on the Kinetic Generator Horse 1 Horse 4 Horse 8 Horse 10 I will isolate these 4 and match them The EXDC K graph says 8 4 10 1 I will leave in 8 and 4 for now Out goes 1 and 10 Thoromation does not work for 5.0 distance races So I have to use the stop action pre play screens On the exdc/Sp PrePlay screens The top 3 EXDC = 2 7 6 SP = 7 6 2 My bets 2 and 7 GS Bill Happy New Year to You |
12-31-2011, 01:49 PM | #12 |
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I see the (6) as the speed. Cheap speed ? maybe. this one could easily quit. For some reason these short sprints seem to favor the "late" runners. My "late" choice would be the (7).
So my final choices are 6 & 7. |
12-31-2011, 01:57 PM | #13 |
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Happy New Year everyone, let's all have our best year in 2012!
I am on the same page as far as this race going OTE so I will cut to my final three OTE runners, 4, 6 and 8. I see that the 4 and 8 ran in the FPLR (21.9 46.3). The 4 made a strong move 1c-2c and held 2nd position into the stretch. I went back and looked for a power line on this one and found line 9. It moved 3-1-1-1 against 22.0 45.3. The 8 finished ahead of the 4 in the tandem, but looking at other lines left me feeling like this one likes to be close without winning. The 6 won its last race against 22.2 46.4 moving from 8th position. I'm left taking the 4 on top.... |
12-31-2011, 02:51 PM | #14 |
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Scratch the 11 and 12 in this race
Scratches 11-12
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12-31-2011, 07:44 PM | #15 |
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Hello everyone. Happy New Year to all. In this race I'll go with the #2 horse.
emilio |
12-31-2011, 08:01 PM | #16 |
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DeD 4th Race
With 15 minutes to post and the 11 and 12 scratched, here is what I have:
Of these, the one consistently closest to the lead is the 2. That is my choice. GL Tim |
12-31-2011, 08:58 PM | #17 |
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Match Up Review
The first time I worked this race I followed my usual procedure. The #3 and #12 were eliminated because of ML 20/1 or greater, leaving ten horses. All of these horses had a race in the last 90 days and all had good lines, so as usual, I took the last line for each horse where the last race was a good line.
So here are the horses and lines. #1 – LAST LINE, 31 days ago and the horse showed good early form by being 1st at the first two calls #2 – LAST LINE, 21 days ago and the horse showed good early form by being 2nd at the first two calls #3 – ELIMINATED ML #4 – LAST LINE, 23 days ago and showed good form by making a middle move to be within 2 lengths of the leader at the second call #5 – LAST LINE, 21 days ago and showed good early form by being 1st at the first two calls #6 – LAST LINE, 38 days ago and won the race in good closing fashion #7 – LAST LINE, 17 days ago and finished 3rd making up 3 positions #8 – LAST LINE, 23 days ago finishing 3rd #9 – LAST LINE, 21 days ago and made a middle move to make up some ground and be within 2 lengths of the leader at the second call #10 – LAST LINE, 38n days ago and showing good early formj by being first at the 1st and 2nd calls #11 – SCR #12 – ELIMINATED ML Now an interesting thing happened. When I got to the “RANKINGS” screen in ENERGY, the numbers 1, 2, 5 and 9 were horrible (see screen shot below). The “COMMON DENOMINATOR” among these horses was that their last line was NOT a 5 furlong line like the remainder of the horses. In fact, some of the lines were as much as ¼ of a mile longer than today’s race. On that basis I eliminated the #1, 2, 5 and 9. Take note: the #11 is not yet scratched in the below screen shot. More in my next post.
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12-31-2011, 09:26 PM | #18 |
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Match Up (cont'd)
Ok, so now I have removed the #’s 1, 2, 5 and 9 because their last lines were much longer than today’s distance of 5 furlongs and the remainder of the horses whose last line WERE from 5 furlong races. So what I did, was go back to these 4 horses and re-evaluate them.
Here’s how I looked at them. #1 – throwing out the last line for the reason already mentioned, I looked at line 2 which is from a 5 furlong race. The horse did not display the standards for a paceline and therefore removed from further consideration #2 – here is a horse that runs every time out. In the last ten races it has been on 5 different tracks and still runs its’ race every time. The question is, which race will it run today? I used this horse in another thread as an example of how to determine how a horse will run today based on the distance of today’s race. Here is the link.http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8051. We already know that using the last line on this horse gets it eliminated. As we look at this horses’ record, we can see that distance matters to this horse. And the only race it shows at 5 furlongs is its' 4th line back. Now I hate to go back 4 lines, but in this case, in this race, I feel compelled to do so. So the 4th line back will be the line I choose. #5 – NO LINE for this horse. The closest it has run to today’s distance is 6.5 furlongs and we know we are not going to get that horse off of any of those lines #9 – The only other line available for this horse in the last 90 days is line 2 at 5 furlongs. However, it just doesn’t meet the standards of line selection, so it is eliminated. The final screen shots are below. As you will see, ENERGY did not correctly pick the winner as it suggested a “sustained” horse would win the race and the #10, who ENERGY correctly had as the best early horse as seen on the EXDC MATCH UP (screen 5), went on to wire the field. Also, the inclusion of #2 off the 4th line back seems to have been correct. The horse did not show early speed and did, in fact, close down the stretch.
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12-31-2011, 09:29 PM | #19 |
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Results
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01-01-2012, 08:59 AM | #20 |
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The result is in and the Proj pace horse # 10 wires the field at 4/1. Was able to coast through a 1st fraction of 23.0 and had enough left to hold off the #2
The "Raceman" has the winner in his 3 horse contender mix (ranked 2nd behind the fav so a win bet was definitly a possibility!) Congrats on getting him! Once again the heavy post time fav (#6) goes down in flames and this race a search party was needed to find his finish. Thank you to all who jumped in and took part
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