Marathon Method update for Derby and other long races - Page 2 - Pace and Cap

raceman5 · 04-28-2015, 02:27 PM

Bill, that is FANTASTIC!!!! work you have done. Got to be one of the best posts i have ever read on this board and i have read them all.

Bob

Bill Lyster · 04-28-2015, 03:03 PM

I did not include the Dubai winner Mub-whatever. As a presser he ran the equivalent of a 37.59 time from 3/4 pole to 9 F mark off of a 139.51 mile time. He appeared to be geared down at the finish, but this split time is, at best, equal to the split time of horses that have gained against low 134 to mid 135 mile times!! I just don't see it!

The Pook · 04-28-2015, 07:21 PM

Hi Bill, can you tell me where to find that 8 month update thread? I can't seem to locate it.

Thanks

Bill Lyster · 04-28-2015, 07:41 PM

Neither can I. It should be somewhere in the Hat Check area but I searched for "positioning" and a few others and it would not come up.

KBROD · 04-28-2015, 07:45 PM

some good videos of workouts and other info.....kentucky derby.com

The Pook · 04-28-2015, 08:38 PM

Thanks a lot Bill.

chuckg · 04-30-2015, 08:02 PM

Here it is. This is where the positioning lesson starts.

http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...3&postcount=19

Thread: Jim Bradshaw's Matchup - 8 Month Update

Once you are on that page click the link at the very top right to view the whole thread.

hold on

http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthr...5463#post15463

That link should get you the whole thread.

clore1030 · 05-02-2015, 10:05 AM

Bill, thanks mucho for all of your info here. Part of my arsenal for today's big event.

atkinsrr · 05-02-2015, 10:54 AM

Twin Spires is showing 4 SCR for the Derby 7, 11, 12, 22

DocSartinLearner · 05-02-2015, 12:32 PM

many thanks atkinsrr for the scratches.
The weather forecast is good and if we assume the pace to be a 1:37 mile. The following colts should be in contention at the second call point: #10 Firing Line, #8 Dortmund, #2 Carpe Diem, #18 American Pharoah. And for the exotics, the greatest uncertaintly is perhaps the overseas visitor, #6 Mubtaahij. This one should not be underestimated.

Good luck and good skills,

DSL

04-28-2015, 02:27 PM	#11
raceman5 Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Largo Fl. Posts: 2,295	Dam!!!!!!! Bill, that is FANTASTIC!!!! work you have done. Got to be one of the best posts i have ever read on this board and i have read them all. Bob

04-30-2015, 08:02 PM	#17
chuckg Grade 1 Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 168	Positioning Post - RichP in 8 mo thread Here it is. This is where the positioning lesson starts. http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...3&postcount=19 Thread: Jim Bradshaw's Matchup - 8 Month Update Once you are on that page click the link at the very top right to view the whole thread. hold on http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthr...5463#post15463 That link should get you the whole thread. Last edited by chuckg; 04-30-2015 at 08:05 PM. Reason: make link work

05-02-2015, 12:32 PM	#20
DocSartinLearner Grade 1 Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 207	The Derby many thanks atkinsrr for the scratches. The weather forecast is good and if we assume the pace to be a 1:37 mile. The following colts should be in contention at the second call point: #10 Firing Line, #8 Dortmund, #2 Carpe Diem, #18 American Pharoah. And for the exotics, the greatest uncertaintly is perhaps the overseas visitor, #6 Mubtaahij. This one should not be underestimated. Good luck and good skills, DSL

04-28-2015, 03:03 PM	#12
Bill Lyster Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Escondido CA just 25 minutes from where the turf meets the surf - "...at Del Mar" Posts: 2,418	I did not include the Dubai winner Mub-whatever. As a presser he ran the equivalent of a 37.59 time from 3/4 pole to 9 F mark off of a 139.51 mile time. He appeared to be geared down at the finish, but this split time is, at best, equal to the split time of horses that have gained against low 134 to mid 135 mile times!! I just don't see it!

04-28-2015, 07:21 PM	#13
The Pook Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Loretto, Ontario Canada Posts: 2,539	Hi Bill, can you tell me where to find that 8 month update thread? I can't seem to locate it. Thanks

04-28-2015, 07:41 PM	#14
Bill Lyster Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Escondido CA just 25 minutes from where the turf meets the surf - "...at Del Mar" Posts: 2,418	Neither can I. It should be somewhere in the Hat Check area but I searched for "positioning" and a few others and it would not come up.

04-28-2015, 07:45 PM	#15
KBROD Grade 1 Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 126	some good videos of workouts and other info.....kentucky derby.com

04-28-2015, 08:38 PM	#16
The Pook Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Loretto, Ontario Canada Posts: 2,539	Thanks a lot Bill.

05-02-2015, 10:05 AM	#18
clore1030 Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,678	Bill, thanks mucho for all of your info here. Part of my arsenal for today's big event.

05-02-2015, 10:54 AM	#19
atkinsrr Grade 1 Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 507	Twin Spires is showing 4 SCR for the Derby 7, 11, 12, 22