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Old 01-03-2010, 01:03 AM   #1
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1/3 GP 2nd race 7 furlongs

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Note the 2 horse is out of order
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Old 01-03-2010, 01:09 AM   #2
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Old 01-03-2010, 01:15 AM   #3
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Horse #6

Last horse is #6. I had memory problems with screenshots -- sheesh!!
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Old 01-03-2010, 01:18 AM   #4
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Old 01-03-2010, 01:40 AM   #5
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GP 2 on 1/3/10, 6 furlongs

1 -E, LINE 1 OFF SY Med TRACK
2 -E ; USED 22.3 45.2 111.2 AS PACE OF RACE
3 -EP, LINE 1 OR 3; L3 IS FASTER AND FROM MUDDY Belmont
4 -E, BUT REALLY NO FORM
5 -EP, LINE 2 SLOW AND OUT
6 -E, OFF 303 DAYS, WORK PATTERN IS SUSPICIOUS, MAY CLOG FRONT, OUT
7 -P, LINE 3 OR 7 ONLY TRUE PRESSER
8 -EP, LINE 2 USUALLY RUNS SEVERAL LENGTHS BACK IN ABOUT 3RD; WON'T BE 3RD TODAY, BUT LOOKS TO RUN FAR ENOUGH OFF LEAD NOT TO GET SUCKED IN
9 -E, ONLY RECENT IS SLOPPY TRACK AND NOT FAST ENOUGH, out


With 5 E and more EP's need someone who runs from 4th-6th who can pass horses.

Race to be run OTE with 3-7-8 as main contenders. 8 has pressed fastest pace and has closed against 44.7. 7 has run 6-6-3-1 vs a 45.3 and closed almost 6 lengths from 1c to 2c. 8 ran 3-3-4-5 against 44.7 and 108.8. so my two are the 8 and 7, favoring the 8 being closer to lead and vs faster time.


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Old 01-03-2010, 08:00 AM   #6
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Good Morning Bill.


I used 1's last line to project todays pace of 22.2, 45.4, 110.5


There are a good deal of pressers in this race, so I see race being OTE, although I do think the 1 will hold strongest of pace horses and could pick up bottom of exotics...

1- Wire to wire at projected pace, but is stretching out
2- Major stamina issues. Will need to go faster early for lead. Eliminated.
3- Excellent race 3 back, against roughly projected pace
4- Too Slow, Eliminated
5- Off the pace horse, but needs to go faster today. Eliminated
6- OTE, but hasnt been close last 3. Off Long Layoff. Eliminated.
7- Ecellent 3 back. Can be close off todays pace.
8- Great presser, who can be closee against faster pace.
9- Too Slow Eliminated.

Contenders left are 1-3-7-8.

The 1 as said, is an exotic threat only. Too much pace in here.
The 7 has raced against slower pace, and has the slowest 7 furlong final time of the 3 horses left.

Leaves 3 and 8 for top win honors. Both should be barely off the pace early. I cant see a deep closer passing this 1 late. The 1 has a decent finishing kick even after posting good fractions!

So 3 and 8 to win.


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Old 01-03-2010, 08:38 AM   #7
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Damn Guys..I'm usually the first one posting...Whats up!!!

I'll keep it simple...when have u seen a Calder first half done in 45 and 2 tenths??

Calder is one of the slowest tracks in the country...

#2 should have a 5 lts lead by the half and make it easy..

looking at the results from that day confirmed that it wasnt a fast track..times were there normal slow in other races..

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p.s- and Bill...Dont let that Hawaiian Sunshine get to you ... keep things in order
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Old 01-03-2010, 10:23 AM   #8
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Since live racing was canceled at Aqueduct today , I have plenty of time to try this Gulfstream race.

Here are the running styles of the horses:

E – 1, 2, 6, 9
EP – 2, 8
P – 3, 4, 7
SP – 4, 5

I have #2 as both an E and EP, and #4 as both P and SP.

For the projected pace, I chose #2’s most recent line. My projected pace is:

22.1 45 1:11

I threw out 4, 5, 7 and 9 as competitors because they were too slow or for other reasons. Well, I actually didn’t throw them out. That implies that there wasn’t much thought in the process. Rather, after careful consideration, I decided that these four horses were very unlikely to win.

Comparing horses line by line:

1 vs 2 – Ugh! Those track-to-track comparisons I hate so much! Fortunately, both horses raced at Philadelphia Park, and it looks like #2 is better early. So I throw out #1, but with misgivings.

2 vs 6 – The #6 returns to the track after 10 months. His running lines for 2008 would make him a competitor, but he ran poorly in his last 4 races. Has he been helped by the layoff? If his races right before the layoff were good ones, I would consider him without hesitation. But since he was running poorly, I doubt he will recapture his form. #6 is out.

2 vs 8 – The #8 can handle any pace the #2 has run, and finishes faster. Plus, #8 has run at better tracks, presumably against better competition, and still finished well. I prefer #8.

8 vs 3 – I can’t choose between them. They perform equally well against a similar pace.

If the odds are good, I’ll bet both.

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Old 01-03-2010, 10:43 AM   #9
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Damn Guys..I'm usually the first one posting...Whats up!!!

I'll keep it simple...when have u seen a Calder first half done in 45 and 2 tenths??

Calder is one of the slowest tracks in the country...

#2 should have a 5 lts lead by the half and make it easy..

looking at the results from that day confirmed that it wasnt a fast track..times were there normal slow in other races..

gl

mike


p.s- and Bill...Dont let that Hawaiian Sunshine get to you ... keep things in order

Mike,

Didnt you post recently you need to stop worrying about track variant and all that?? lol.

Hey 2 will be long, so if you get it, it will be nice! Good Luck man.
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Old 01-03-2010, 10:56 AM   #10
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Mike,

Didnt you post recently you need to stop worrying about track variant and all that?? lol.

Hey 2 will be long, so if you get it, it will be nice! Good Luck man.
yeah..I did.....but I'll have to try and close the right eye now..lol

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