Synergism without RDSS

[alydar_ David]

Originally Posted by Bill V.

Test results race worked so far = 4


Race 1 Penn 8 8/24 Winner RAW
Race 2 PID Race 7 8/25 Winner Tie
Race 3 MNR Race 7 8/25 Winner Raw
Race 4 MTH Race 1 8/26 Winner = Tie

Now you're talking, an objective test. I realize this is a lot of work. Thanks for doing it, Bill.

[alydar_ David]

Originally Posted by Bill V.

The topic of this thread as I understand it was that Syn 2 was best used as
in the manual

There are a few parts of syn 2 that need some hand input
First is the question about shippers.
Next is the track record or 3 year best time.
Last is the set up times .

This test is to see if doing these vital steps makes a difference
over just sending adjusted data from RDSS

I am doing this because If the test holds up I believe as Shoe pointed out
Doing all the seps will out preform just sending the adjusted numbers
from RDSS. If this holds up and is the case , Then Ted will have a valid reason to invest his time into working a way that the set up time, shipper and 3 year best- track record can also be
auto entered.

A problem with testing the readouts from 2 different methods is there are quite a few readouts to compare on SYN 2
For the test I will just go with the top 2 FW and the top 2 DR

so far Jeff's suggested method is 4 for 4

GS
Bill

Bill, that seems like a reasonable way to test the difference.

Just for your information, and not necessarily for testing purposes, most winners are found in the top two of FW, TT and DR. Sometimes the actual TT fraction can differ from the TT ranking. And sometimes there may be as little as a 0.01 difference between the second and third ranked TT horses. Something to keep an eye on when you're betting real money.

When I find only one horse fits that bill I bet him to win and three times to place. For example, $2 Win and $6 Place.

Of course a model with improve your results, but that goes without saying. And for turf you need to take a good look at SP.

I suggest you limit your testing to dirt races only with dirt pacelines, if at all possible. That will give you the most objective results.

Keep up the good work, matey (as Richie would say :>)

[alydar_ David]

Originally Posted by JimG

"...Although I am sure we would agree to Let it Ride.

Jim

Jim, if you haven't seen it in a while, the movie is now available on Netflix.

[alydar_ David]

Originally Posted by shoeless

Bill,

Not as young as I used to be

Jeff

Amen, brother :>)

[Bill V.]

Thanks David

Here is test race # 5 Race # 4 from Del Mar 8/26 This one is tricky because using Phase 1 I have turf, dirt and a sprint line and 6 lines to rate
I have shippers in the race

The 3 year best for 1 mile at Del Mar is 135.1

The setup times are shown

Using raw hand entered data afilling all asked questions the top 2 FW
and DR would be the and

[Bill V.]

Looks like both the raw and RDSS adjusted agree
although The adjusted ranks the sprinter # best on DR

[alydar_ David]

Bill, as they say in Massachusetts, "Not too shabby."

[Bill V.]

Wow Raw is doing very well

Bill

[Bill V.]

I had to use 6 horses because I have to pick my pace lines 100%
consistantly if this test is going to be fair.
I feel that Phase 1 gets me the best chance to have the winner
at least in the top 5

I just want to see were the winner ranks better It does me or anybody
else very little good to do races ahead of time and not have the winner included

In the Del Mar Race 4 I had to use 6 horses
because basic Phase 1 guidelines are to use the top 5 TPR horses
and the top 2 EP and LP horses

Here is the TPR screen I can only eliminate the #5 because its not top 5
TPR and Top 2 EPR or LPR




I suppose the 3 is a none contender too being a turf horse
but I want to keep it consistant
Sorry I had to use 6 horses in this race In my day to day handicapping
this happens every now and then

Bill

[alydar_ David]

Originally Posted by Bill V.

I had to use 6 horses because I have to pick my pace lines 100%
consistantly if this test is going to be fair.
I feel that Phase 1 gets me the best chance to have the winner
at least in the top 5

I just want to see were the winner ranks better It does me or anybody
else very little good to do races ahead of time and not have the winner included

In the Del Mar Race 4 I had to use 6 horses
because basic Phase 1 guidelines are to use the top 5 TPR horses
and the top 2 EP and LP horses

Here is the TPR screen I can only eliminate the #5 because its not top 5
TPR and Top 2 EPR or LPR

Attachment 29924


I suppose the 3 is a none contender too being a turf horse
but I want to keep it consistant
Sorry I had to use 6 horses in this race In my day to day handicapping
this happens every now and then

Bill

No problem. Happens to me too. And with Energy! it's usually the reverse. Many times there are only three contenders. Just go with the flow and keep doing what you're doing.

And you might want to consider throwing a dollar or two on your picks. :>)