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Old 04-26-2008, 02:35 AM   #51
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Shoe,

If ever you or any one else wants to know how I did something then simply ask either in open forum or send me an email and I'll give you my phone number and/or email the info to you.
But to prove beforehand to a skeptic or non believer is not my cup of tea.
I work hard at what I do and put hard earned money where my mouth is.
But I won't "cast my pearls before swine".

I believe the man because I too once hit a big Tri.
I got $18000 after the government got theirs.
I did it on a $2 ticket.
I shouldn't have even been betting trifectas back then because normally I couldn't even find a winner in a one horse race.

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Old 04-26-2008, 05:36 AM   #52
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Still wonder why such a great handicapper like tlt would act like such a baby over not getting Brohammers tapes.
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Old 04-26-2008, 07:00 AM   #53
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Hi TLT

What a nice post, Back in the olden days when I used to bring my
laptop to the track I often would meet people
I always tried to be polite Who was this person, You never know ?

Having done just like you , I too spent many nights sleeping on
manuals and follow ups back in the paper days I always was reading something

I worked real hard till I developed a plan
I basically have done races the same way for years I do what I do because I have won with it

Having Doc Sartin and Jim Bradshaw and other say Li
Bill you are pretty good, makes it sweeter when you won doing it
your way based on the teachings

cool post

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Old 04-26-2008, 07:04 AM   #54
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Froggy

I hear what your saying
I love showing peole what I do I will gladly show any race
I can do it before or after

I get this from the follow up
looking at contenders and line selection
Is the key to me

I apreciate when you show races after the fact
I can work from what you show

Have a great day

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Old 04-26-2008, 07:04 AM   #55
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TLT- Very nice post. Some great insights into your handicapping.
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Old 04-26-2008, 07:20 AM   #56
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???????????????????

Bill,Surprised by your post when people say they will show somebody something in a e mail you get upset that they are not showing it here for everybody to see.I guess you have had a change of heart.
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Old 04-26-2008, 08:12 AM   #57
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2 reasons

I changed because

1. If people want to share stuff by email
Then thats thier right I really don't worry about it
any more I learned that the hard way
Nobody who cares about horse racing is in my apartment
or in my truck and I am pretty sure Mom and Dad
and the current lady in my life are cool

So any probplem I have with people
seems to be coming from Emails
and phone calls So I don't worry about it

2. I have very limited time. Hey I want to win races too..
I would and have
used Email request to do races or answer questions
but I also usually ask the email requester If I can
do it on Pace and Cap This way I answer the question
and help others who might have the same question
but don't know how to post on Pace and cap
Like my dad. He reads everything and makes notes but
will only try to post when I'm there with him
I feel there are many other people like dad

You know what Jeff
I really want to do like Doc
Help and work with people who want
it . Its quality over quantity
and an Attitude of gratitude
I hope you have a great day and win
and things work out better

GS
Bill

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Old 04-26-2008, 08:47 AM   #58
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Let's set the record straight.

Jeff has been a friend to this site and to me as well.
He would give you the shirt off his back.
He has a sincere desire to win and learn.
Please do not find fault with him.

I like and respect Justin who is not only smart but sharing as well.
He is also a friend. Please practice what you preach. No insults or bashing.
Your an intelligent guy and should realize this serves no purpose.

Let's put aside our differences and stop the insults and wasted energy.
I can tell you first hand that it is counter productive and a waste of time.

It is not important who is truthful and who is not. What matters is your own interpretation as to what has been written here. Sometimes it is better to keep your thoughts to yourself and not get involved altogether.

A few months ago I was involved in one of these pissing contests and found that it brought out the worst in me. I never felt good about it.
I would never intentionally hurt anyone. If I did, I'm the first one to admit to when I'm wrong.

Bill, Please close this thread. Enough has been said.
If you want to be a clone of Sartin, that's good by me.
It's your right and privledge to do so. If It's not broken then don't fix it.
I would rather be Bill gates
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Old 04-26-2008, 09:09 AM   #59
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Parts

Thank You Bill
For your very well thought out post
you nailed it

BTW I dont want to be a clone of Doc
I just want to do what I can since
I had his help when I needed it.
I feel that we as a group can continue for him.
I just happen to feel his way to teach works best for my ability.
I am not a clone I am just a student.

GS
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Old 04-26-2008, 09:17 AM   #60
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Bill,

Your are a good student and a good heart.
I admire you for being who you are.
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