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Tim Y · 11-28-2008, 12:42 AM

here is an example of BROHAMER "clone" lines in a K. Derby contender that screamed I CANNOT GET 10 FURLONGS the first Saturday in May as the % medians were rising.

Energy distribution made this one a noncontender

Charlie D · 11-28-2008, 12:46 AM

Tim

No offence, but these screenshots of races from old are meaningless to me mate

shoeless · 11-28-2008, 03:29 AM

Running styles: he bases them on POSITION

Tim this is what you stated and by Brohamer's definition from his book he says one length that's all Im trying to point out.

BladeRunner · 11-28-2008, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Y

here is an example of BROHAMER "clone" lines in a K. Derby contender that screamed I CANNOT GET 10 FURLONGS the first Saturday in May as the % medians were rising.

Energy distribution made this one a noncontender

If I remember correctly it was you who said that Big Brown cannot win the
Derby because his % medians was high

Tim Y · 11-28-2008, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BladeRunner

If I remember correctly it was you who said that Big Brown cannot win the
Derby because his % medians was high

Nope: said he was an either.or: would go off and hide, or crash, but at those odds he was a pass anyway.

Tim Y · 11-28-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie D

Tim

No offence, but these screenshots of races from old are meaningless to me mate

To YOU maybe, but it is the essence of what the methodology is all about. I was part of the group who tested, gave feedback and first promoted this program so that the creator of it, and the last several Sartin programs (Guy Wadsworth) would have direction on the several iterations that became Speculator. Catch up with what is happening.

"Johnny Come Latelys" have a lot to learn about the evolution of these ideas

Tim Y · 11-28-2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BladeRunner

If I remember correctly it was you who said that Big Brown cannot win the
Derby because his % medians was high

I found the quote:"Reminds me of Spend a Buck. Big Brown either clears and runs away, or more realistically, he folds up down the lane. Might be alone on the lead,but, if challenged, his inexperience will undo him."

Correct me if I am wrong, but no one challenged him.

Bill V. · 11-28-2008, 10:52 AM

Please everybody

Howard Sartin asked me to make sure evrybody on our website
reads and understands this manual

Here is just a taste I think what Tim is showing
is very important.. Its not how fast a horse runs its how it runs fast
FAST is the part we seem to be ignoring
To run fast form and the horses Total Energy distribution while in form
and against the strange attractors of THIS race match up are the keys to
the methodology

Bill V. · 11-28-2008, 10:56 AM

IDE manual

Tim Y · 11-28-2008, 11:08 AM

Funny, but there is a Big Brown special on right now on HPI TV and this one was just about always on the far outside EXCEPT at Belmont and we all know what happened there, and to a small extent in Baltimore (he tried to get out on the first turn at the Preakness when running INSIDE of horses). This one had an enormous Achilles heel and a careful review of his races exposes it.

11-28-2008, 12:42 AM	#31
Tim Y turf historian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,455	here is an example of BROHAMER "clone" lines in a K. Derby contender that screamed I CANNOT GET 10 FURLONGS the first Saturday in May as the % medians were rising. Energy distribution made this one a noncontender Attached Images

11-28-2008, 10:52 AM	#38
Bill V. The egg man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Carlsbad, California Posts: 10,005	The Dynamics Please everybody Howard Sartin asked me to make sure evrybody on our website reads and understands this manual Here is just a taste I think what Tim is showing is very important.. Its not how fast a horse runs its how it runs fast FAST is the part we seem to be ignoring To run fast form and the horses Total Energy distribution while in form and against the strange attractors of THIS race match up are the keys to the methodology Attached Images

11-28-2008, 10:56 AM	#39
Bill V. The egg man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Carlsbad, California Posts: 10,005	Inc IDE manual Attached Images

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11-28-2008, 12:46 AM	#32
Charlie D Match Up Apprentice Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,105	Tim No offence, but these screenshots of races from old are meaningless to me mate

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shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,643	Running styles: he bases them on POSITION Tim this is what you stated and by Brohamer's definition from his book he says one length that's all Im trying to point out.

11-28-2008, 11:08 AM	#40
Tim Y turf historian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,455	Funny, but there is a Big Brown special on right now on HPI TV and this one was just about always on the far outside EXCEPT at Belmont and we all know what happened there, and to a small extent in Baltimore (he tried to get out on the first turn at the Preakness when running INSIDE of horses). This one had an enormous Achilles heel and a careful review of his races exposes it.