New Ideas

[MIKE1121]

Originally Posted by Tim Y

that is a new one: ZONES......never ever heard of that one.

The reason you never heard of Zones is becouse I created it as part of my method after reading Jim Crammers work on positions. The only people who I have talked about it to are people who visit this site and 2 friends of mine at the track I visit.

This is my method which I pay my rent with,I have no intention of selling it unless it would no longer work then I would be willing to have it published.



This was meant as just an example of using an open mind to discover new ideas. I am not telling anyone to abandone their methods, There are MANY ways to beat this game.



If a person never looks outside the box they will never see what they may gain.


Mike.

[Charlie D]

When i first found this site and read some fella was using raw times to win races i thought, aye right

Thanks for sharing The Hat and Richie

[tom]

From the BC Sprint, this is Cost of Freedom, his last 6 wins at 6 to 7 furlongs.
I call him visually an Early Presser - he can take the lead, he can sit close, never more than 2 back at the first two calls.
Pacelines

[tom]

Looking at his Energy, he hardly seems to be very consistent in how he runs.

[Tim Y]

Originally Posted by MIKE1121

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This is my method which I pay my rent with,I have no intention of selling it unless it would no longer work then I would be willing to have it published.

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Buy IT? "Early horses win far more than they should." Dr. William Quirin "Winning at the Races: Computer Discoveries in Thoroughbred Handicapping." Anyone reading much about handicapping, AND BELEIVING IT by data back up, knows this has remained consistent for years and years and years. Horses closer to the pace win far more than they should and you can't be up front unless you can run earlier OR you are a stakes horse (the very very few who have adapatable speed). Simple.

Those that get early position by default (lucky breaks, and you would realize how often that happens by watching thousands of breaks UP CLOSE, a few feet from the assistant starters), rarely repeat that luck.

[tom]

And this....

[tom]

And his E/L history

Now, my question - is this an early horse or a late horse?

[Tim Y]

Having now watched EVERY break in EVERY race for two years (by actual
count it is well over 1500 races), getting to know the difficulties
the starter and assistant starters have in keeping the enclosed
animals attentive and in line, the break, even in horses USED to be up
on the lead, are under so many extraneous factors, totally out of
control of the handicapper, that it borders on randomness.

Subtle, tiny factors with things like a horse relieving themsleves
just as the gate opens, stepping slightly back into the rear doors
JUST as the doors open, turning their head in response to the
assistant starter's pressure, the reponse of tailing animals on the
verge of flipping, and a myriad of other uncommon things EFFECTS every
break every day putting many horses near, or close to the lead, when it
was nothing but luck that did it.

Unless one is OUT on top in the first flight each and every time, one
should take the break with a HUGE grain of salt race to race.

[Tim Y]

Two things about that good sprinter: FORM CYCLE (improving over last three) and ran it's later runs against one of the slower early paces (3rd 7th and 8th lines back when not in recent form) while not being all that competitive so it is not a relevant line. Horses run their BEST style when more competitive in the SAME range of e/l ...even these really good ones

[tom]

Not competitive? He won races 1,2,3 and 7,8 9.
Is he an early or late horse?