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Old 04-17-2009, 07:37 AM   #21
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Lou has decided not to post on P&C. I see him signed in from time to time on Pace Advantage site if that helps.
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:17 AM   #22
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Lou Sosa has been corresponding regularly with me, and lately been very busy behind the scenes completing (actually, completed this past Easter weekend) about 200+ hours of work scanning and digitizing the numerous older Sartin manuals and audio seminars sent to him by Tom M and several others. Regardless of his choice not to post here, I thank him sincerely for his dedicated effort to preserve these documents and seminars for posterity and education. It shows his comittment to the Methodology ideas and his respect for Doc Sartin.

Late last year, Bill V and I started to re-organize the existing Sartin Library, currently housed in the Club Pace and Cap private Forum, into a new more orderly format. Like several other things, that project has gotten a bit sidetracked, but now with arguably as complete contents as we are likely to achieve, I believe the New Sartin Library should make its debut within a month or so. It just takes time to organize the Forums, Topics, images and links to the server where the stuff is housed.

The new Sartin Library will still be a restricted access Forum but differently than it is now (i.e. know the password and you're in - that password can wander...). Instead, your Pace and Cap User Name will have to be associated with that Library Forum. If you have made a post in the existing Club Pace and Cap (or we happen to remember giving out the existing password), we'll know you had access to the existing Library and will set you up automatically for access to the new Library. You can always send an advance request for access to the new library to library@paceandcap.com and we'll put you on the list for the grand opening in the near future.

Bill V has laboriously extracted the Table of Contents from every Follow Up and placed the image in a post related to each single issue - thanks Bill! Here's an example:

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Again, many thanks to Lou Sosa, Tom M, Bill V and others for helping make the upcoming new Sartin Library a valuable learning tool for all of us, and preserving some of the history of Doc Sartin's work!

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Old 04-17-2009, 04:12 PM   #23
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Bill should charge an extra fee for people wanting to use it,that way he could also repay Lou for his time and effort.
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:18 PM   #24
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Thanks for the update, guys.

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Old 04-17-2009, 05:32 PM   #25
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Since Lou decided not to upload his material to the library I figure it's no harm now in letting all know what it was comprised of:

Jon: The following is what I recently worked on from member Tom Molley's collection. I also did buy the original Brohamer Model publication from a small book store in Detroit and I got a cd copy of the 14 tape Brohamer Lecture Series that went for $93 or so on Ebay not too long ago, which I just finished editing, hopefully for the better.

Manuals:

The Kinetic Generator Preliminary Manual
Ultra Scan
Putting it all Together Beaumont Clinic 1990

Entropy
Bay Area Workshop Expanded Manual
Q-scan
Synergism
Synergism Workbook
Synergism II

Beaumont Workbook 1988
Textbook Series Lesson #5 Analysis of Races

The Final Handicapping Analysis Decision
Sartin Seminar Workbook Oak Tree 1985
Sartin Seminar Workbook Chicago 1985
Las Vegas Workbook Spring 1987
Las Vegas Workbook April 1988
Las Vegas Workbook Autumn 1988
Las Vegas Workbook Spring 1992
Las Vegas Workbook Spring 1993

Tapes bought from Doc (not studio quality by any means):

Contenders And Pace Lines 6 tapes
Classroom Series #1 Tom, Dick, and Doc 4 tapes
Brohamer Model 1 tape
Pirco' s Handicapping Audio Tape Series #2 2 tapes

Cassettes recorded by Tom at some seminars:

Las Vegas April 1992 5 tapes
Bay Area April 1992 3 tapes
K-Gen 4 tapes
Engen 4 tapes
Beaumont Workshop 6 tapes
1/23/93 2 tapes
Unknown Workshop 7 tapes

Pre recorded Non Sartin tapes:

Handicapping Expo 84 8 tapes
The odds on your side-Mark Cramer 1 tape



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Old 04-17-2009, 05:42 PM   #26
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Since Lou decided not to upload his material to the library I figure it's no harm now in letting all know what it was comprised of:
Jon,

Lou DID upload all the foregoing items. They're all in the Library, waiting as I mentioned, to be presented soon.

Thanks for the preview!

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Old 04-17-2009, 07:06 PM   #27
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Ted,

You (and Lou) made my day! Had I known I would'nt have spoiled the suprise!

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Old 04-17-2009, 09:51 PM   #28
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hard work

Dear Lou,

we have never met or talked as far as I know but I wanted to say thank you foe all the work that has gone in to the libary I use it and the work is great thank you so much.
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Old 04-18-2009, 10:31 AM   #29
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Ditto here Lou.

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Old 04-18-2009, 10:35 AM   #30
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Dittos that. The library is a great resource.

I don't know how many times I have had to go back and looks something up that didn't really make sense at the time, but now fit in with what I have learned since then.

All the hard work is appreciated!
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