Aodds Gold 5.5 - Page 3 - Pace and Cap

Houndog · 06-29-2006, 05:53 PM

The results of this race. I did not pick or override any paclines selected by the program. This program could only work better if you put some thought and time in your contender and paceline selections. All the tools are here to do this with this really powerful program. Again thanks Jim Bradshaw and Randy for creating a really nice program that still works to this day. Megachex with Superchex on had all 4 horses in it's top 4.

shoeless · 06-29-2006, 06:17 PM

Houndog,Nice job as always Jeff

Houndog · 06-29-2006, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by shoeless

Houndog,Nice job as always Jeff

Jeff, I did nothing in this race but download the file from BRIS and let the program pick the pacelines. It also had 2 easy winners on top that did not pay as well but in these races it eliminated many of the horses on it's own. I am not saying this is a magic box, but sometimes it get's close. It also had several other winners in the top 3. It really amazes me sometimes that posters on other BBS boards knock this program so much.

I know that the AODDS Silver program from Bris is missing the Final Screen and the Megachex and Superchex screen. Maybe the knocks are coming from this more limited version of AODDS. AODDS Silver still let's you select lines and save them to be used by other Sartin Programs. It also has the Auto-Block feature as well. AODDS Silver Plus is still available as a free download, although Bris does not advertise it.

Houndog · 06-29-2006, 07:14 PM

My post and examples on Aodds Gold was not meant to be boastful, or to prove how smart or stupid I am. This was really brought on by some posts I read on other bulletin boards. Without naming names it seems are work here is outdated, irrelevant, and does not work anymore. The concepts that Doc Sartin brought forth years ago are as relevant today as they ever were.

Some people have been trying to re-write the Sartin Methodology and make it their own. I have heard relevations from some people that has been common knowledge to people familiar with the Sartin Methodology for years. Instead of trying to rewrite history by putting their own spin on things I wish they would write their own history, and then they can call it whatever Methodology they want.

dugoutgold · 06-29-2006, 08:48 PM

Nice job Dog! The reason on other bbs that they knock the program is that they just didnt get the idea that it wasnt a one screen whos the top horse type program, wait till you start using the auto modeler, best feature of the program!

Houndog · 06-30-2006, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dugoutgold

Nice job Dog! The reason on other bbs that they knock the program is that they just didnt get the idea that it wasnt a one screen whos the top horse type program, wait till you start using the auto modeler, best feature of the program!

With the auto modeler are you entering your results manually? I have tried different results files from Bris and the conversion program included with the program (results.exe) does not convert them properly. I think maybe Bris might have changed the file structure for the flash charts since then. If you are able to get this conversion program to work I was wondering if you have any ideas in this area.

Gary gave me some ideas, but he is running Aodds Gold 98, and I am running Aodds Gold 5.5 (DOS). Any suggestions in this area would be helpful. Thanks-----Houndog.

Houndog · 06-30-2006, 06:52 AM

Without the Final Handcapping Screen, and the Superchex and Megachex modules the winner Brassie Prince does not rate as highly in Aodds Silver. This may not be a problem if you are just using Aodds to get your contenders and pacelines to be used by other Sartin Programs (Energy, Thoromation, etc).

I think it might be a problem if you use Aodds Silver as a standalone handicapping program which does not have the additional screens and modules.

JoeLong · 06-30-2006, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Houndog

Without the Final Handcapping Screen, and the Superchex and Megachex modules the winner Brassie Prince does not rate as highly in Aodds Silver. This may not be a problem if you are just using Aodds to get your contenders and pacelines to be used by other Sartin Programs (Energy, Thoromation, etc).

I think it might be a problem if you use Aodds Silver as a standalone handicapping program which does not have the additional screens and modules.

Hi Houndog,

Agreed, for comparison, would it be possible to show us how Energy handled the pacelines that Aodds selected? The reason I ask is because I am considering moving my Energy paceline selector from Speed+ to Aodds, it appears to be a simpler method.

JoeLong

Houndog · 06-30-2006, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeLong

Hi Houndog,

Agreed, for comparison, would it be possible to show us how Energy handled the pacelines that Aodds selected? The reason I ask is because I am considering moving my Energy paceline selector from Speed+ to Aodds, it appears to be a simpler method.

JoeLong

Joe, I will do this A.S.A.P. I will use the pacelines selected with Superchex-Off and Superchex-On. I will not override any of the pacelines, but I am sure this is not the way to go.I think you can only expect so much when you try to have the program select pacelines for you. It will be interesting to see what happens.

I will just try to keep the top 5 Superchex Horses to put in the Energy Program.

dugoutgold · 06-30-2006, 01:34 PM

Hi again Dog, Guess what ? I have 98 here too, hmmm I wondering if you could get ahold of someone at Bris who is in tech support? Perhaps they know a way to conert the files.

06-29-2006, 05:53 PM	#21
Houndog Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,258	Screen 9 Results The results of this race. I did not pick or override any paclines selected by the program. This program could only work better if you put some thought and time in your contender and paceline selections. All the tools are here to do this with this really powerful program. Again thanks Jim Bradshaw and Randy for creating a really nice program that still works to this day. Megachex with Superchex on had all 4 horses in it's top 4. Attached Images Last edited by Houndog; 06-29-2006 at 05:58 PM.

06-29-2006, 07:14 PM	#24
Houndog Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,258	Just Stating Facts My post and examples on Aodds Gold was not meant to be boastful, or to prove how smart or stupid I am. This was really brought on by some posts I read on other bulletin boards. Without naming names it seems are work here is outdated, irrelevant, and does not work anymore. The concepts that Doc Sartin brought forth years ago are as relevant today as they ever were. Some people have been trying to re-write the Sartin Methodology and make it their own. I have heard relevations from some people that has been common knowledge to people familiar with the Sartin Methodology for years. Instead of trying to rewrite history by putting their own spin on things I wish they would write their own history, and then they can call it whatever Methodology they want.

06-30-2006, 06:52 AM	#27
Houndog Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,258	Aodds Gold vs Aodds Silver Without the Final Handcapping Screen, and the Superchex and Megachex modules the winner Brassie Prince does not rate as highly in Aodds Silver. This may not be a problem if you are just using Aodds to get your contenders and pacelines to be used by other Sartin Programs (Energy, Thoromation, etc). I think it might be a problem if you use Aodds Silver as a standalone handicapping program which does not have the additional screens and modules.

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06-29-2006, 06:17 PM	#22
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,643	Houndog,Nice job as always Jeff

06-29-2006, 08:48 PM	#25
dugoutgold Grade 1 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 206	Nice job Dog! The reason on other bbs that they knock the program is that they just didnt get the idea that it wasnt a one screen whos the top horse type program, wait till you start using the auto modeler, best feature of the program!

06-30-2006, 01:34 PM	#30
dugoutgold Grade 1 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 206	Hi again Dog, Guess what ? I have 98 here too, hmmm I wondering if you could get ahold of someone at Bris who is in tech support? Perhaps they know a way to conert the files.