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Old 01-23-2026, 06:11 PM   #11
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So far the study shows the power of CSR rankings.
The top 3 CSR horses won 63.3% of the races;
The top 4 CSR horses won 77.3% of the races; and
The top 5 CSR horses won 84.9% of the races.

In addition,
The top 3 horses shown on the New Pace HIGH graph when boxed won 29.4% of the exactas;
The top 4 horses shown on the New Pace HIGH graph when boxed won 49.8% of the exactas, and
The top 5 horses shown on the New Pace HIGH graph when boxed won 62.8% of the exactas!!

In the example above the top 2 horses on the graph, the 1 and 3, finished 1-2 and the top 4 CSR horses, 4-5-3-1, won the trifecta and superfecta.

All of this data was developed from only the New Pace information in RDSS. I used adjusted speed ratings values in this study. Remember NP theoretically tells us with approximately 90% certainty, the range of values for each horse from its low and high adjusted speed ratings, based on the number of races in the past performances. This means that no one pace line is used, yet high level results can be obtained by paying attention to and correctly interpreting the information.

Hope you all do well with this info. Ask any questions and I will try to answer them.

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Old 01-23-2026, 07:51 PM   #12
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Thanks for the stats Bill.
Much appreciated.
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Old 01-23-2026, 11:23 PM   #13
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I just thought I would post a reply for the 1/22/26 Parx races New Pace numbers:

Race 1: NP nos. 8,1,6,2,5,3,7
Result: 1,2,3,8,6,5,7
$2 Exacta $48.45

Race 2: NP nos. 2,3,1,5,4,7
Result 1,4,3,2,7,5
$2 Exacta $76.80

Race 3: NP nos. 3,2,4,1,5,4,7
Results: 1,3,4,2,6,5
$2 Exacta $30.60

Race 4: NP nos. 7,4,1,5,6
Results: 7,5,4,6,1
$2 Exacta 17.40

Race 5: NP nos. 1,3,6,7
Results: 3,1,6,7
$2 Exacta $8.80

Race 6 NP 4,6,3,1,2,7,8
Results: 6,1,7,3,4,2,8
$2 Exacta $66.60

Race 7: NP nos. 1,6,3,2,4,8,7,5
Results: 5,6,7,28,3,1,4
$2 Exacta $215.40
That #5 horse had 3 straight wins plus a couple earlier, I don't know why it was ranked so low.

Race 8: Had two horses with no data that came in 1 and 2.

Race 9: NP nos. 5,2,3,1,6,4,7
Results: 2,3,4,5,1,7,6
$2 Exacta $25.00

Race 10: NP nos. 4,9,7,5,3,8,2,1
Results: 3,7,2,85,9,4,1
$2 Exacta $17.20

Looks like you would make some money here.

Good Luck in the future.

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Old 01-25-2026, 12:49 PM   #14
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Thank you great information.
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Old 01-27-2026, 01:19 PM   #15
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Thanks Bill and Awesome

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