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Old 03-06-2009, 04:46 PM   #11
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If that's what you believe fine with me
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Old 03-06-2009, 05:04 PM   #12
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It's not a matter of belief Jeff, it's reality


A trainer with a 25% 30% win strike rate means the other 75% 70% of runners lose,


So you have someone who trains more losers than winners, why?? because they place their horses in the wrong races most of the time
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Old 03-06-2009, 11:25 PM   #13
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obviously you are doing something wrong.

you don't have to be playing grade 1 races in order to win.
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Old 03-07-2009, 01:14 AM   #14
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Of course you're absolutely correct; I usually don't know what I'm doing, just didn't think it was that obvious.

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Old 03-07-2009, 09:16 AM   #15
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non winners of two lifetime
Curious if anyone has done a workup of these specific races using Howard's guidelines of best of last 3, 7.5 blf as max. Talking minimum of 200-250 races specifically for nw2l.

Also using the TM download as data source and advanced Methodology software:
1) Synthesis
2) Validator
3) Validator 2
4) Validator 3
5) Validator 4
6) Rdss in Validator mode
Talking specific races where NO horse has won beside his maiden win. Not these multi condition jobs.

Hiding to top 5 total energy and primary line score and tracking % of winners top 5.

Fwiw here were yesterdays and todays.

safe weekend
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3/7:
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ded-4.7.10
fg-1.5.10
gg-9
haw-9
lrl-2
op-6
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pha-4.8
sun-7.12
tam-6
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*ct-5.9
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Old 03-07-2009, 07:59 PM   #16
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"cheap races and the methodology"

In ,my experience doing multi thousands of races,synt.-val. 1-val-man.-val 4
they are superior,as long as same surface,track, similar dist.,avoid long lay
offs,?? cond. horses,and projections.
" IDEAL RACE= HAS 10-12 ENTRIES SAME DIST. SAME TRACK,WEAK
FAVORITE,MOST ENTRIES HAVE RACED RECENTLY 45 DAYS OR SO
THEN USE DOCS GUIDE LINES, "YOU CANT LOSE IN THE LONG RUN"

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Old 03-07-2009, 08:22 PM   #17
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Here's reality for you this horse pops today at 29-1 at Tampa going wire to wire.The trainer uses the oldest trick in the book taking a distance horse cutting it back in distance then stretching it back out.
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Old 03-07-2009, 08:36 PM   #18
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Hi Jeff
can you tell me the race number and horse's name
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Old 03-07-2009, 08:50 PM   #19
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The trainer stats tell the story Jeff

Sprint to route 85% lose
Claiming 86% lose
Routes 87% lose
No Class Change 88% lose

If i or you throw enough Darts, we will hit bulls eye a few times and end up with a similar %
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Old 03-07-2009, 09:03 PM   #20
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Anyway Jeff, this is not worth bothering with really, as you stated earlier if it's what i believe then fine, if you believe different, then fine

Lets try and make some money from what we each believe is the reality

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