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Power move here is 2c-sc with a move of 6-2
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here the move is 2c-sc
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Here the move is 1c-2c
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Here the move is 2c-sc
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Here the move is 1c-2c
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Very nice examples, Richie, Thank You. From that last example, I can see the horse doesn't necessarily have to FINISH competitively,"IF" that's ALL the horse has available, I suppose. Clear illustrations. VoodooFan
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Great examples on the Power Moves provided Richie. As with anything else in handicapping an assumed better PM is not the end all in win selection. Look at what happened in the Haskell this last Sunday Curlin IMO had a better PM in 2nd race back then Any Given Saturday did in its last race but lost to AGS. Curlin had a more powerful PM against faster time in that 2nd race back (The Preakness) and furthermore in its 6th race back it showed that it could definitely handle the projected pace which was for the most part 1.10. So no matter what no one factor ever stands alone and other considerations still come into play in this very challenging game that we play.
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First of all I apologize for the late posting. I finally got some quiet time yesterday to work my way through the analysis and I was confused on a couple of points. 1. With respect to the elimination of the 3 and the 8 for being slow. No problem with the 8. However, the match up pace was from the #1 horse and was: (in tenths) 47.5-110.9-136.3-149.4 The power line from the #3 was 47.3-111.2-136.2-149.1. see attachment. Only the 2c is slower than the match up pace, all other fractions are the same. I recognize that #3 is either SP or S, but does the 2c time alone determine this horse's ability to compete in this race? #3 gained both position and lengths at the 3 calls prior to finish. I need help here. this appears to be a very finely distinguished analysis of slow vs. fast, one that I cannot logically make at this time. Jim or Richie, can you shed a little more light on the analytical progress thats going on here or perhaps more precisely where the #3 effectively loses contact with the other contenders? 2. 2nd point of confusion. In discussing the relationship between 1 turn miles and 2 turn route times I understand the logic because 1 turns are usually faster. However, the comparison was stated as being made to each horse's Power Line and the Power Line from the #5 is from a 2c of 109.4, but it appears that Jim's analysis is now using paceline 1 with a 2c of 110.4. did we switch powerlines in the description of the analysis somewhere? Thanks for the clarifications |
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The Three horse is slower at the second call and will be behind the pace of today’s race, and behind the winner today. Competitive yes, able to win, no. I am looking for winners not competitors.
Yes I changed running line to evaluate Ice Cool Kitty but I did look at the "power Line." As stated I have a hard time using the one turn mile time. Regardless, I did not like the horses chance in the race, especially if the last race is more at today’s pace. He will be behind the winner ever call regardless of the running line used. |
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