Brohamer - Page 3 - Pace and Cap

Charlie D · 11-28-2008, 12:39 AM

Tim

Pace is a rate of movement

What is the Energy readout you use, it's not a rate of movement is it???

Charlie D · 11-28-2008, 12:46 AM

Tim

No offence, but these screenshots of races from old are meaningless to me mate

shoeless · 11-28-2008, 03:29 AM

Running styles: he bases them on POSITION

Tim this is what you stated and by Brohamer's definition from his book he says one length that's all Im trying to point out.

Tim Y · 11-28-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie D

Tim

No offence, but these screenshots of races from old are meaningless to me mate

To YOU maybe, but it is the essence of what the methodology is all about. I was part of the group who tested, gave feedback and first promoted this program so that the creator of it, and the last several Sartin programs (Guy Wadsworth) would have direction on the several iterations that became Speculator. Catch up with what is happening.

"Johnny Come Latelys" have a lot to learn about the evolution of these ideas

Charlie D · 11-28-2008, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Y

To YOU maybe, but it is the essence of what the methodology is all about. I was part of the group who tested, gave feedback and first promoted this program so that the creator of it, and the last several Sartin programs (Guy Wadsworth) would have direction on the several iterations that became Speculator. Catch up with what is happening.

"Johnny Come Latelys" have a lot to learn about the evolution of these ideas

PMSL

If someone disagrees with you, they are ignorant and don't have clue

You really are something Tim

Tim Y · 11-28-2008, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie D

PMSL

If someone disagrees with you, they are ignorant and don't have clue

You really are something Tim

Ignorant is not stupid, it is unaware

Tim Y · 11-28-2008, 01:46 PM

Look at Smarty Jones: consistent sustained to late while on the lead and project to get 10 furlongs

Tim Y · 11-28-2008, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie D

If someone disagrees with you, they are ignorant and don't have clue

You really are something Tim

want to prove a point? provide some evidence or otherwise you're just whistling dixie

Tim Y · 11-28-2008, 11:08 AM

Funny, but there is a Big Brown special on right now on HPI TV and this one was just about always on the far outside EXCEPT at Belmont and we all know what happened there, and to a small extent in Baltimore (he tried to get out on the first turn at the Preakness when running INSIDE of horses). This one had an enormous Achilles heel and a careful review of his races exposes it.

fasthorses · 11-28-2008, 12:53 PM

Tim Y,

I think it was in post twelve of this thread that you said "Total energy down and % median up versus the same relative pace three races in a row, NEVER wins and is often off the board at short odds."

Needless to say, your comment is one that deserves a lot of serious attention because being able to toss out "short odds" horses with a high degree of success is a giant step towards profits.

I'm one of the less knowledgeable to visit this site but I'm pretty sure I've run across at least 2 and, perhaps, 3 "Total Energy" definitions connected with the Sartin Methodology.

Could you please define the "total energy" you refer to above and share how it's calculated?

Could you also please define what you mean by "the same relative pace"?

Thank you.

11-28-2008, 01:46 PM	#7
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shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,643	Running styles: he bases them on POSITION Tim this is what you stated and by Brohamer's definition from his book he says one length that's all Im trying to point out.

11-28-2008, 11:08 AM	#9
Tim Y turf historian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,455	Funny, but there is a Big Brown special on right now on HPI TV and this one was just about always on the far outside EXCEPT at Belmont and we all know what happened there, and to a small extent in Baltimore (he tried to get out on the first turn at the Preakness when running INSIDE of horses). This one had an enormous Achilles heel and a careful review of his races exposes it.

11-28-2008, 12:53 PM	#10
fasthorses Grade 3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 50	Tim Y, I think it was in post twelve of this thread that you said "Total energy down and % median up versus the same relative pace three races in a row, NEVER wins and is often off the board at short odds." Needless to say, your comment is one that deserves a lot of serious attention because being able to toss out "short odds" horses with a high degree of success is a giant step towards profits. I'm one of the less knowledgeable to visit this site but I'm pretty sure I've run across at least 2 and, perhaps, 3 "Total Energy" definitions connected with the Sartin Methodology. Could you please define the "total energy" you refer to above and share how it's calculated? Could you also please define what you mean by "the same relative pace"? Thank you.