Betting 2 horses a positive example

[admin]

I was asked recently by a member of our group here at pace and Cap
If I think he should bet two horses to win ?

I thought about it today and my advice to him and anyone else is, Try to work races and stucture your bet
any way that ,although we all hate to lose- when you lose a race things make sense
and you feel good about your decision

I have set goals in the past to bet only one horse I have also made plans to just bet exactas
and also another time just to bet pick 3's

These experiments never work out too well for me But doing them I found I would
see the same patterns that have sunk into my head and
kick myself when the patterns produced winners that i would have had
if I just bet two horses to win

this is hard to put into words ,any time you do something by feelings
its hard to show what exactlly you mean ,
Yesterday at Philly race 7 turned out to be basically a push
but horses being bet down Is something I have to live with now that i bet ahead of time

The race was a 5.5 furlong sprint I worked the race in my normal steps APV CR
Best of the last 3 pacelines using Val 4

here is the BLBL

My win bets were the 1 and the 3

Now in my mind this race was all about the 3
My readout over the years at philly have shown me that
the top 2 LPR horses do very well at 5.5 furlongs
Everthing fit great The pattern of the 1 ( it had 2 very good lines )
and the 2/1 Ml made it a bet but really I was hoping for the 3
horse I bet the 1 win only and the 3 WPS
I bet enough on the 1 to make me a profit
and cover the bet on the 3 For me this bet works because the 1 can win
and the 3 could place and show ,

The 1 won the race and paid $6.20 the 3 rand dead last

I must bet 2 horses I could have just bet the 3 WPS
but I need two horses riunning in a race for my head
My advice again is to bet the race any way that when its over
win or lose your ok with your decision

GS

Bill

[ray lopez]

Betting on two horses is best.Just pick your spot and pass on some races
when the odds are too low.Patience is the key.Since I play for a living,I
know where i am strong.I play turf routes mostly.That's where my bread
and butter is right now.Betting on two horses apply really well to turf routes
because of the higher mutuels...

[jms62]

I usually bet 2 horses when I get the odds. When the odds are not looking good I usually open up a pick 3. If I get decent odds on 1 of my 2, I will open the Pick 3 with a single on the lower odds horse.

[admin]

Hello Ray
I sure envy you, that you can do this for your income
I agree that if the race offers value and fits a winning pattern
its the race I go into
If not I just look for another

GS
Bill V

[shoeless]

Ray,I agree with you on the turf routes which I feel is the strongest part of my game as well.Jeff

[shoeless]

Bill,Thanks for the advice.Jeff

[partsnut]

Betting 2 horses has always been an interesting topic for me.
I never was an advocate of it until recently when I started play around with a hedging program and started using Synergism 2.
I now look for selected races to bet and will proceed in this manner.
2 horses both over 7-2 odds ( I bet them both evenly).
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1 horse above 7-2 and 1 horse below 7-2 ( the lesser odds horse is used as a "breakeven horse" and is hedged accordingly) usually more money would go on the higher priced horse then if they were both bet evenly.
My cut-off on the low odds horse is approx. 2-1 odds.
If the low odds horse goes too low I might consider a win, place bet in the manner described below on the higher priced horse.
This method is often referred to as the free bet method.
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Both horses are below 7-2 ( I pass the race).
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If one of my 2 horses scratch, the other would have to be at 7-2 or above.
If this is the case, I bet 2.5 times the amount on place as I would bet on win. Ex. $4 win, $10 Place.

[partsnut]

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What I like about this method is that if my normal bet is $10.00 I dont have to make two $10.00 bets ($20.00 Investment) in a race at equal amounts or waste money on the low price horses. In my opinion, you will never make money betting low priced horses to win
It puts the greater portion of my bet on the higher priced horse. So in reality I restrict myself to Just $10.00 per race and go for the money. If the favorite wins I break even.
If both lose, I lost $10.00 and not $20.00. If I win I will make slightly less then if I would have made 2 $10.00 bets in the race. Proportionately It's more profitable to bet in this manner

[Rverge]

hi "yens" guys
like Parts i also bet 2 horses with 7/2 or higher, along with a excta box with the same two horses. i'll also will bet on the higher odds horse double the win bet to place. Bill heller in is overlay,overlay book talked about the place bet wager.
sometimes at my "evil" MNR home track i'll try only a 3 horse win bet with 10 horses only.
quick story. guy i work with(strange) came in to work, and tells me "hey at FL they only had 3 horses running, only win bets. so i bet 2 to win on all 3.
hey! i can't lose!...." winner pays 5 and change. same guy bets 7/all in the Derby in the excta and bargs he hit the excta for 100.(for gets to say half ticket).

[admin]

This race is going off in a little while at Evangeline
Its a 7.0 race I am going into this race because I am shooting for the
# 2 horse at 8/1 ML since Its good value I will bet it WPS
I will make a strait win bet on the 7 also

The 5 with its running stlye and poor readouts
make it a race that tells me bet the top 2

Here are my APV cr

 
1. 120.9%      1.65
2. 193.6%      2.70
3.  179.1%     1.69
4.  97.7%       1.40
5.  87.7%       1.31
6.  77.9%       2.78
7.  118.6%      1.77
8.  113.7%      2.86
9.  93.8%        1.00