Another TT Loss Survey - Pace and Cap

Lt1 · 04-16-2025, 11:32 PM

Here are the results of another 100 race survey where a contender lost at least 1 length between the 1st & 2nd calls
HORSES Wins Places
100 11 17
So after 2 100 race surveys we have these totals
Horses Wins Places
200 22 27
Again IMO it is very safe to demote these horses from win consideration and since they only have been in the top 2 25% of the time pretty safe to leave them out of the exacta.
Tim

kahunab · 04-17-2025, 11:24 AM

Interesting data Tim!

Lt1 · 04-17-2025, 11:52 AM

Hi Dick. These 2 surveys pretty much conform with last 100 race tt survey I did last yr and posted on the site. In that one I counted any loss on the turn. The results of that one was only 17 showing a loss won[did not record places]. Again these results are based on my contender and paceline selections and config settings[I use 100% DTV and a -15 to+15 range]. Don't know how it would come out on your settings and pl selections but thought I would share results for info. Folks are free to disregard results if they want to.
Tim

04-16-2025, 11:32 PM	#1
Lt1 Grade 1 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Valley Stream NY Posts: 11,371	Another TT Loss Survey Here are the results of another 100 race survey where a contender lost at least 1 length between the 1st & 2nd calls HORSES Wins Places 100 11 17 So after 2 100 race surveys we have these totals Horses Wins Places 200 22 27 Again IMO it is very safe to demote these horses from win consideration and since they only have been in the top 2 25% of the time pretty safe to leave them out of the exacta. Tim __________________ Trust but verify

04-17-2025, 11:24 AM	#2
kahunab Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 312	Interesting data Tim! __________________ Haakon 47 'Something magical happens when you bring together a group of people from different disciplines with a common purpose.' Mark Stefik Palo Alto Research Centre Fellow

04-17-2025, 11:52 AM	#3
Lt1 Grade 1 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Valley Stream NY Posts: 11,371	Hi Dick. These 2 surveys pretty much conform with last 100 race tt survey I did last yr and posted on the site. In that one I counted any loss on the turn. The results of that one was only 17 showing a loss won[did not record places]. Again these results are based on my contender and paceline selections and config settings[I use 100% DTV and a -15 to+15 range]. Don't know how it would come out on your settings and pl selections but thought I would share results for info. Folks are free to disregard results if they want to. Tim __________________ Trust but verify Last edited by Lt1; 04-17-2025 at 11:57 AM.

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