GP Race 4 1-17-14 - Pace and Cap

Segwin · 01-17-2014, 09:12 AM

Hello All:

I'm posting this race because I want to make sure I'm seeing/calling it right. I'm not going to bet this race as 1) I can't settle it in my mind & 2) I don't see anything worth much value.

On to the race:

I'm having problems with file size upload. I have to get to some work related tasks - I'll sort this problem out and complete later.

Segwin · 01-17-2014, 11:36 AM

Ok - lets try again:

Segwin · 01-17-2014, 11:40 AM

The remainder:

Segwin · 01-17-2014, 12:00 PM

OK, looks like all uploaded OK.

#1 - 1st line. Last three ITM with a G3-100 3rd place. The odd thing here is the BL/BL. It is placing this horse as 7th but if you notice RDSS is picking up the SR of 69 but the DTV is 42! I think the horse is better than what the BL/BL is showing and interested on the thoughts of others.

#2 3rd line back. Line 1 & 2 the horse was outclassed and really had no business in these races.

#3. First line. It is also the Fulcrum horse but I bent the rule just a tad. I actually took the 2nd line back for that because it is how I saw the pace setting up.

#4. Last line. Belongs class wise and will be coming up from behind.

#5 2nd line. Outclassed on 1st line. I see the horse behind the leaders but won't be able to keep up with the pace. He did have a smart workout recently though.

#6. 2nd line back. Running up front but will be outclassed.

#7. Last line. May be boarder on class. Will be coming up from behind.

#8. Something is wrong with this horse and shouldn't have a line.

I see the 3 horse up front with 2 & 6 trying to keep up. If the three can't wire then it will be 1 or 4 to win.

I'm not betting this race but was interested in what others think. Especially with the 1 horse.

I forgot to post the seg screen & TPR screen so that will be next.

Segwin · 01-17-2014, 12:01 PM

Seg & TPR screens:

cigar · 01-17-2014, 01:38 PM

My Win Bet are 5 and 1

I've attached a word file of the BLBL and Segment screen, not sure how to upload screen shot.

lone speed · 01-18-2014, 01:24 PM

Regarding turf horses.....

IMHO....usually early front runners on turf can adapt well to dirt surfaces..closers, especially deep one Pace closers on turf are at a huge disadvantage when switching to dirt..

The percent median is a good gauge to evaluate the matchup of turf horses on dirt...
Note...this is in races where there are no comparable recent Pace lines to evaluate..
I believe there are some who stress to pass to look for a clean race..

At fairplex especially at races at a mile and 1/16th and up...for some reasons...turf horses do very well...some trainers like Jeff Mullins have figured these races well....

Segwin · 01-18-2014, 06:48 PM

Wow - playing around with the DTV, in the config section, produces interesting results.

I need to play around with this a tad....

Tnxs again.

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01-17-2014, 09:12 AM	#1
Segwin Grade 1 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 624	GP Race 4 1-17-14 Hello All: I'm posting this race because I want to make sure I'm seeing/calling it right. I'm not going to bet this race as 1) I can't settle it in my mind & 2) I don't see anything worth much value. On to the race: I'm having problems with file size upload. I have to get to some work related tasks - I'll sort this problem out and complete later. __________________ Terry Last edited by Segwin; 01-17-2014 at 09:25 AM.

01-17-2014, 11:36 AM	#2
Segwin Grade 1 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 624	Ok - lets try again: Attached Images __________________ Terry

01-17-2014, 11:40 AM	#3
Segwin Grade 1 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 624	The remainder: Attached Images __________________ Terry

01-17-2014, 12:00 PM	#4
Segwin Grade 1 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 624	OK, looks like all uploaded OK. #1 - 1st line. Last three ITM with a G3-100 3rd place. The odd thing here is the BL/BL. It is placing this horse as 7th but if you notice RDSS is picking up the SR of 69 but the DTV is 42! I think the horse is better than what the BL/BL is showing and interested on the thoughts of others. #2 3rd line back. Line 1 & 2 the horse was outclassed and really had no business in these races. #3. First line. It is also the Fulcrum horse but I bent the rule just a tad. I actually took the 2nd line back for that because it is how I saw the pace setting up. #4. Last line. Belongs class wise and will be coming up from behind. #5 2nd line. Outclassed on 1st line. I see the horse behind the leaders but won't be able to keep up with the pace. He did have a smart workout recently though. #6. 2nd line back. Running up front but will be outclassed. #7. Last line. May be boarder on class. Will be coming up from behind. #8. Something is wrong with this horse and shouldn't have a line. I see the 3 horse up front with 2 & 6 trying to keep up. If the three can't wire then it will be 1 or 4 to win. I'm not betting this race but was interested in what others think. Especially with the 1 horse. I forgot to post the seg screen & TPR screen so that will be next. __________________ Terry

01-17-2014, 12:01 PM	#5
Segwin Grade 1 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 624	Seg & TPR screens: Attached Images __________________ Terry

01-17-2014, 01:38 PM	#6
cigar 3-3-1 - 3-3-2 Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 405	One for Woodbine? My Win Bet are 5 and 1 I've attached a word file of the BLBL and Segment screen, not sure how to upload screen shot.

01-18-2014, 01:24 PM	#7
lone speed Grade 1 Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 697	Regarding turf horses..... IMHO....usually early front runners on turf can adapt well to dirt surfaces..closers, especially deep one Pace closers on turf are at a huge disadvantage when switching to dirt.. The percent median is a good gauge to evaluate the matchup of turf horses on dirt... Note...this is in races where there are no comparable recent Pace lines to evaluate.. I believe there are some who stress to pass to look for a clean race.. At fairplex especially at races at a mile and 1/16th and up...for some reasons...turf horses do very well...some trainers like Jeff Mullins have figured these races well....

01-18-2014, 06:48 PM	#8
Segwin Grade 1 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 624	Wow - playing around with the DTV, in the config section, produces interesting results. I need to play around with this a tad.... Tnxs again. __________________ Terry