What have I learned about RDSS lately?

[pktruckdriver]

Now this could be a book, as I have been taking in alot lately and believe t or not , I do remember some of it.

RDSS is definetely derived from Doc Sartin's Methodology, and Jim Bradshaw too, as well as all the others who at one time beacme Methodologist's too, way too many to list here.

What Makes this so special is that it is not a black box, oh no, you must make it your own, and you can use this tool in so many different ways, with all the options it has, and just talking to a few of you letely, everyone does just that.

Model making has many different possibilities, because the pacelines you choose may not be the one's someone else does, thus changing the results from one person to another. And last night I found out , still not sure how to use it, but that in the exported model info, it turns Pink to highlight info you would be interested in, who knew, not me, til last night.

Wager Decision Forms from past follow ups provide for those unsure of your wager decisions a way to evauluate them and see where you are most profitable, if used prorperly, this includes me, they are simple and easy to use. Now if I would just use them, who knows how high my win perceentage could go?

POW, Phscology of Winning, where else do you get the biggest part of handicapping discussed as we do here, to be a winner you must be a winner, is it that simple, Doc said Yes, and he seemed to know a little about this subject, so I will trust him on this. being in control mentally is the biggest part of being a winner, being happy with your life and confident in your selections, taking all the emotions out of your plays, the decision part of it at least, as Even Doc must have enjoyed it when his horse came in 1st, I know I do, especially at a price.

Another important aspect of this approach in consisitently doing the same thing over and over, trusting your PL selections and choosing your contenders the same all the time, this way you will see what is working thru the data gathered from your plays, where if you constantly changed your decision making you would never know , and or remember, what won and what method lost.

I could go on and on here and may come back yto add more, but some say I write too much as it is, and they hate to read these long winded post's, and I do listen to you, so for now I will end this 1st post on this subject.

RDSS to me is awesome, I still need some work to be done, like learning to use the Open Office Calc and doing the record-keeping that the winners here do, as few are winners without it, to win you must work at it, which includes all aspect of the Methodology, and yes that means a little work, but the rewards are well worth it, ask those who win , they will be happy to tell you'

God Bless
Patrick

[Bill V.]

Thank you

Its because of you that I finally had me eyes open to the value of record keeping I still am not sold on modeling , But at least you got me to
make decision models and track profiles It has improved my ROI
greatly

Thanks for your letter to the group

Have a great time and listen to your peers and soak in the POW / The Sartin Methodology

Bill

[pktruckdriver]

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Hey Bill

Glad I could help you figure that out , or at least the importance of it, most of the better Players keeps journals of everything and journals for different tracks too, pretty extensive, but they are winning and I am not, so...

Something else I picked up on this week past, is that I have been wasting my download time on Saratoga only, as well as Monmouth and Del Mar too, but really only playing 2 tracks, Saratoga mostly and some Monmouth, (for which I win more at Mon, than the Spa).

Yes The Spa is the hardest track in America to beat, no wonder I was losing here, everyone was losing here, it is a tough tough track, everyone, except Barb maybe, but she has her journal too, works hard and deserves the wins she got and you could see her working hard to find them all day long.

Everyone knows, I recently won the contest here, and what did I do, with unlimited downloads available to me, I only downloaded Saratoga Mostly and never really looked into what tracks might be worthy of playing, (worthy being profitable).

The Long story made short, I was an Idiot trying to beat Saratoga , when I had all the tracks in front of me, all of them and never once looked into them, sad very sad.

patrick

[pktruckdriver]

Seems that recordkeeping , while needed is for some like me, very hard to do, even when I tried the Video Proffessor to learn Excell, I was unable to do so, sorry.

Now I got Open Office , why because it is free, I could afford it, can't yet afford Excell, but do really want to model a bit and record keep. It seems that many user's know it all, ( excell and programming stuff) and a few like me know nothing about it and we can not teach each other, and those who do know are too busy and were too bust this weekend too, of course, time was a premium, not enough of it to go around.

I need the following things to help me

Wager info needed
Track
Race Type and Distance ( example 8.3f MSW50k 2yr fillies or 5.5 Nw1 CL5k 3yr up)
Typa of Wager ( Win Dutch or exacta )

then to model with, just the BL/BL Screen info should be enough to model with no-Why?

WHY IS THIS

It would all fit into 1 page when modeling, right now the current export to model info is about 8-9 pages wide and can not be printed out or studied by me easily, what abpout you guys and gals? That is why...

Patrick

SO who could help me do this, and actually help me do it, by walking me thru it a dozen times or so till I got it, can eneter data and read it and then evauluate it and then print too, this I need to learn to do to be a winner, right, of course so..

patrick

[Bill V.]

Patrick "If you don't have all the tools use the tools you have "

No law says you have to export and no rules say look at all the factors

My opinion KISS keep it simple why not just use a $1.00 spiral notebook
you can get at any dollar store

and make about 10 columns with the heading YOU and Only you feel are
worth modeling

just write down the rankings of about 6 factors you feel are vital to winning
Do this after each race. It wont take you much longer than it would
take to opening up Open Office, cutting and pasting and scrolling to the factor you want to track.


Ted is a great guy He is also making a product that everybody can use. He has a wide range of clients who want things. That does not mean you must
use them
Just because some can and want to auto model every factor
If its not for you work with something that interest you

Barb is amazing. She works very hard and takes what she does very serious.
Her rewards are a result of the work she puts in

You will do much better once you focus on one thing
to do better than you did yesterday

the only thing that matters is your ROI

once you record your highest ROI in a 20 race cycle
You have a goal
That is to get a higher ROI
If you focus on that you will win

[dlivery]

Hi

Thank's for the great suggestion.

Glad you suggested this as this how I give a race a quickie going over X's & O's early, or OTE before I tighten the nuts and bolts to the race before using rdss

[alydar_ David]

Patrick,

Looking at today's races I see 33 non-maiden Claiming and Allowance sprints. None of them are at Saratoga. One is at Del Mar.

You can handicap and win most of those races without a track model. Play only when the track is listed as "fast."

If you can't win those, then you probably shouldn't be betting real money.

You've already got the data. Free. Utilize it. Take advantage of the opportunity while you can.

This is beginning to sound like a broken record.

[Ted Craven]

Originally Posted by pktruckdriver

... It seems that many user's know it all, (excell and programming stuff) and a few like me know nothing about it and we can not teach each other, and those who do know are too busy and were too busy this weekend too, of course, time was a premium, not enough of it to go around ...

Not so fast, Patrick! Who specifically are you referring to who was 'too busy' to spend time with you this past weekend at Saratoga? I was there all weekend and watched everything going on in our group (more than I did handicapping).

I saw everyone who was there spend time sitting with you, going over their handicapping process.

I spent considerable time and money organizing not only the whole weekend, but also the Friday evening seminar, where we went over 3 races (and not just from my personal approach), where we arrived at the winner in the Alabama (which winner you bet against, mysteriously, because you used not the best paceline, not even the 2nd best paceline, both of which would have gotten the winner on top - but the 3rd best paceline for Blind Luck which of course rated her worse). There was mostly rapt attention during the seminar, but I observed you occasionally dozing (or was that deep concentration?)

On Sunday it was raining, but the remainder of the group showed up to handicap, bet and watch the races - except you, who skipped that day. Finally when no one but my mother and I and Charlie were left and you emailed and said you were not coming, we also then left and continued watching and betting from our apartment. I told you before the weekend that I would spend time with you - all you had to do was ask, and make the time. You asked me questions several times throughout the weekend and I felt that I sat with you and answered every specific question you asked. Yet my sense was, as I was answering your questions, you were already thinking of other questions or not really being attentive to what I was saying. Sunday was a perfect time to sit and concentrate, with few others to distract us - and even (and only) my mother to give you an alternate perspective in case maybe you don't like how I present things. But avoiding the inclement weather was perhaps more important to you than getting one on one instructional time.

You showed me a Wager Decision Form you filled out, totally incorrectly according to the instructions which had to have accompanied the Follow Up from which you obtained it, and I explained to you the correct way to fill it out and how to use it. Yet you subsequently ask here in another thread how to create such a document and how to use it. You didn't like my advice!?

In June, I negotiated for you FREE access to Unlimited data for RDSS (through September 15) and FREE use of the software so you could study and prepare for the big event. Data which costs others $165 per month. Yet you downloaded only a few tracks a few times per week.

Patrick - you have said you were waiting and focusing since a long time on this weekend gathering in Saratoga to boost your game and understanding of Methodology tools and learn from some experienced users. So - how did that work out for you? Unless I misinterpret your post-mortem of the event, it looks to me like everyone else showed up but you, who maybe half-showed up.

Patrick - please re-read the Seminar Workbook handout, page 1, point #4, final paragraph (http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...20&postcount=2).

"Unless you employ consistency, you will produce erratic results and will become discouraged, blame the tools and ultimately believe that the source of any failure lies outside yourself."

My opinion is that you believe deeply that someone else other than you is the key to your success. You have asked SO MANY QUESTIONS on this Forum, on the PaceAdvantage Forum and on the HorseStreet Forum - I can scarcely imagine what other question remains to be asked - or answered for you - that will do you more good than the dozens or hundreds of nuggets of advice and encouragement (and days of time spent replying to you) representing lifetimes of handicapping blood, sweat, tears and triumph given freely by so many. There is no one else! No one 'out there' who can listen for you, focus for you, work for you. As the saying goes - you can lead a horse to water (and fill the trough with water, and build the trough, and buy the land and build the barn and raise the horse, etc, etc) - BUT, you cannot make the horse drink the water. That is up to the horse, or else it goes thirsty.

My opinion is that you are probably not cut out to wager on horseracing other than as a hobby, and with minimal stakes, as others might enjoyably bet the weekly lottery or participate in any low-cost hobby. Perhaps you lack attentiveness due to neurological or physiological issues beyond your present ability to control - that is not for me to speculate on - but surely attentiveness and focus are crucial requirements for any success in this particular game. It is no poor reflection on you if you do happen to lack these traits. I once imagined being a professional musician or poet, possessing some small talent there (-small-talent-and can't-sing-) but I determined that this was not realistic. Neither was pro basketball, hockey or politics. No shame in that: but my temperament did not match those endeavors.

One's current experience of reality always matches one's core beliefs. Thus, you can tell a lot about someone's core beliefs by observing their current reality. Perhaps I am wrong about this (or you will prove me wrong by your actions) but I don't think so. I don't know why you did not ask for more help this past weekend, or pay more attention to the help given to you. Perhaps you believe that you are not smart enough, or deserving enough or possess enough 'computer skills', or have difficulty learning. Whatever. Please consider this suggestion: that you pause for a while and reflect on whether possibly the whole past few months, and perhaps culminating in the past weekend, has been a clear-cut, long-running answer to you from the 'universe' if you will, on the question: am I cut out for this?

For myself, I truly don't know what more help I can give to you (or want to). But please don't say that folks were too busy to try to help you this past weekend in Saratoga. That is just wrong - and it disrespects those who tried.

Ted

[mildeu]

For ted and mike and, especially "mum" wow

[mildeu]

Well, maybe there was a mike in there somewhere, or as tehe great sage once said "you do the math" or was that meth