Go Back   Pace and Cap - Sartin Methodology & The Match Up > Velocity Programs
Get RDSS
Google Site Search Get RDSS Sartin Library RDSS FAQs Conduct Register Site FAQ Members List Today's Posts

Velocity Programs This area is for users of Older type Sartin Programs hand entry type

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-25-2006, 08:41 PM   #1
RichieP
Grade 1
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,019
Kentucky Derby / Energy!

Here is my readout for the Derby using this software.

I am a NOVICE with this but wanted to putz around.

I entered every Grade 1 and Grade 2 win and place line

used 9f as distance of race and 148.00 as time that horses are adjusted to.

I trusted the auto adjust 100% - I made NO user adjustments whatsoever.

Biggest BUST is gonna be Lawyer Ron that everyone is hyping man

NO CHANCE looking at my readouts - NO CHANCE

Race initially started out variegated "Early" - then thru the chopping out process has wound up variegating "Sustained"

have the race down to 4 contenders after starting with like 20. Really should chop Barbaro out and make 3.


Brother Derek is the "Energizer" and also the "Paragon A" horse. In addition the "true" 0.00 MUV horse


SweetnorthernSaint is the designated "Paragon B" horse. That is "Win Energy" according to Variegate. Also on that Paragon are Brother Derek and Point Determined.

This Brother Derek is showing up on every readout. He could be the one.

Designated Win Horse - SweetnorthernSaint
Secondary Win Contenders - Brother Derek and Point Determined

lot of fun working this race

screen shots
Attached Images
 
RichieP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2006, 09:17 PM   #2
Dap Daddi
Dap Daddi
 
Dap Daddi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 138
Richie:

Do you mond going back in and using AP Warrior's San Felipe race to see where and how that race stacks up with the three contenders you are left with.

thanks,

Dap!
Dap Daddi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2006, 09:37 PM   #3
Dap Daddi
Dap Daddi
 
Dap Daddi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 138
Synergism II Readouts

Richie:

To piggy back on you thread I came up with the following raw readouts
Attached Images
 
Dap Daddi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2006, 09:38 PM   #4
Dap Daddi
Dap Daddi
 
Dap Daddi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 138
Synergism II Cont:

Second Screen Shot:
Attached Images
 
Dap Daddi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2006, 09:39 PM   #5
Dap Daddi
Dap Daddi
 
Dap Daddi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 138
Synergism II Cont:

Third Screen Shot:
Attached Images
 
Dap Daddi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2006, 09:40 PM   #6
Dap Daddi
Dap Daddi
 
Dap Daddi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 138
Synergism II Cont:

Looking at the medium E% Sinister looks too high. Other opinions welcome!

Dap
Dap Daddi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2006, 09:41 PM   #7
RichieP
Grade 1
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,019
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dap Daddi
Third Screen Shot:
I basically see the same thing with Warrior

NO sustained
NO late energy

etc etc

ok
RichieP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2006, 09:39 PM   #8
RichieP
Grade 1
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,019
Hey Dap

thats the line I had used for him. He has NOTHING off that line.

I am making NO adjustments other than the auto adjust so thats probably the reason. I am using Brother Derek's pace of race at 9f of 148 as the "par time" the others are adjusted against. Real simple like.

This is just a fun post for me and I am HOPING that VERY experienced users of Energy! will chime in with their readouts. I wanna weigh my progress with this software against expert users Dap. I am dead serious.

I have fire inside me to learn.

Rich
RichieP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2006, 10:52 PM   #9
Dap Daddi
Dap Daddi
 
Dap Daddi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 138
Also based on the previosu information with regards to using only horse what won or placed in a Grade 1 or Grade 2 race would the following horses only be considered and the rest eliminated:
Brother Derek
Lawyer Ron
Barbaro
Bob and John
Sinister MinisterSteppenwolfer
Keyed Entry
Showing up
Point Determined
Like Now
Storm Treasure
Jazil
Seaside Retreat
AP Warrior
Sweetnorthenrsaint
Sharp Humor
Mister Triester
Sacred Light
That makes a total of 17 horses who qualify per Doc's rule.

Any comments?
Dap Daddi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2006, 11:04 PM   #10
Dap Daddi
Dap Daddi
 
Dap Daddi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 138
If you have the time I would recommend that you go to Calracing.com and watch the Santa Anita Derby video. It's free. One thing I think you will get out of watching is that cetain horses in the race to me were just ridden out without the jockey pushing their horse harder. I call it saving a little horse for the next time. Just my opinion.
Dap Daddi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Kentucky Derby 2006 - Open Forum RichieP Previous 'Handicapping Discussion' Forum 56 04-29-2006 04:08 PM
Counter Energy Exacta Plays / Aqueduct Main Track RichieP Selections 7 04-01-2006 01:06 PM


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:29 PM.