PMTR Advanced procedure Q's - Pace and Cap

chrisl · 10-13-2007, 08:49 AM

In Pace makes the Race, Advanced procedure's chapter, it has the B4, best 1/4, B2 best 1/2, and also a current number for these. Is there something in RDSS that has any relation to these numbers, current and best. Where could I find the description of the abreviation's in the program, that might answer my Q's... Thank you... Chrisl

Ted Craven · 10-13-2007, 10:04 AM

Chris,

What page in the Advanced Procedures chapter (presuming Edition 1)?

Ted

chrisl · 10-13-2007, 10:38 AM

Hello Ted: It is the 2nd edition, Hambleton and Schmidt. It has nothing in it from Pizzolla. Page 81, Advanced Procedures by Hambleton. Being a very infant student os Sartin, pace,This might be something very old, but it seems to me, to be a way of checking a horse's current form. I was just curious if in RDSS is there something simaliar to this..Thank you again for all your support.. Chrisl

Ted Craven · 10-13-2007, 11:38 AM

Chris,

Got it. No there's not the same quarter mile TPR style analysis in RDSS (or its predecessors): the EPR rating rates the 2nd call (4f in sprints, 6f in routes). Sounds a lot like the kind of Match Up analysis Richie and Hat discuss.

You can certainly add a Q1 analysis for measuring variance of last race from best race by using the Velocity screen F1 column where best and last are clearly marked. You can also use the colour coding to get a visual of how well it performed over a period, over what surfaces and against what pace (some colour = good race/in form; no colour = bad race/off form unless a move is shown or ran evenly against a good PoR comapred to today's likely pace).

I'll study that section a bit further - never read the 2nd Edition of PMTR very closely, but I know that Tom Hambleton became very interested in form cycle analysis following the 1st Edition of the book and 'the parting of the ways', so this procedure seems quite in keeping with that focus.

Thanks for bringing it to attention - keep us posted if you find success with it.

Ted

chrisl · 10-13-2007, 12:14 PM

Hello, and good day Ted: Thank you very much for that info. Well how is the fine tuning, of the bris picks going today. I have been up since 4 am. Finally I said" DONE". I will cross my fingers for both of us, and anyone else on this board taking a stab at the tournament. Good luck and Good day..Chrisl

10-13-2007, 08:49 AM	#1
chrisl Grade 3 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ketchikan AK/Sacramento Ca Posts: 64	PMTR Advanced procedure Q's In Pace makes the Race, Advanced procedure's chapter, it has the B4, best 1/4, B2 best 1/2, and also a current number for these. Is there something in RDSS that has any relation to these numbers, current and best. Where could I find the description of the abreviation's in the program, that might answer my Q's... Thank you... Chrisl

10-13-2007, 10:04 AM	#2
Ted Craven Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 9,251	Chris, What page in the Advanced Procedures chapter (presuming Edition 1)? Ted __________________ RDSS - Racing Decision Support System™

10-13-2007, 10:38 AM	#3
chrisl Grade 3 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ketchikan AK/Sacramento Ca Posts: 64	Hello Ted Hello Ted: It is the 2nd edition, Hambleton and Schmidt. It has nothing in it from Pizzolla. Page 81, Advanced Procedures by Hambleton. Being a very infant student os Sartin, pace,This might be something very old, but it seems to me, to be a way of checking a horse's current form. I was just curious if in RDSS is there something simaliar to this..Thank you again for all your support.. Chrisl

10-13-2007, 11:38 AM	#4
Ted Craven Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 9,251	Chris, Got it. No there's not the same quarter mile TPR style analysis in RDSS (or its predecessors): the EPR rating rates the 2nd call (4f in sprints, 6f in routes). Sounds a lot like the kind of Match Up analysis Richie and Hat discuss. You can certainly add a Q1 analysis for measuring variance of last race from best race by using the Velocity screen F1 column where best and last are clearly marked. You can also use the colour coding to get a visual of how well it performed over a period, over what surfaces and against what pace (some colour = good race/in form; no colour = bad race/off form unless a move is shown or ran evenly against a good PoR comapred to today's likely pace). I'll study that section a bit further - never read the 2nd Edition of PMTR very closely, but I know that Tom Hambleton became very interested in form cycle analysis following the 1st Edition of the book and 'the parting of the ways', so this procedure seems quite in keeping with that focus. Thanks for bringing it to attention - keep us posted if you find success with it. Ted __________________ RDSS - Racing Decision Support System™

10-13-2007, 12:14 PM	#5
chrisl Grade 3 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ketchikan AK/Sacramento Ca Posts: 64	Thank you Ted Hello, and good day Ted: Thank you very much for that info. Well how is the fine tuning, of the bris picks going today. I have been up since 4 am. Finally I said" DONE". I will cross my fingers for both of us, and anyone else on this board taking a stab at the tournament. Good luck and Good day..Chrisl

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